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Nesting benefits?
Hello:
Is there ANY benefit to nesting an entire sequence when finished editing before printing to tape? I’ve 3 layers of video and 4 channels of audio, in an hour and 5 min sequence and I am dubbing to tape using DSR-11. Should you still need to do an audio mixdown after nesting as well?
Thanks much
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[Kent Beeson] “Is there ANY benefit to nesting an entire sequence when finished editing before printing to tape?”
For just printing to tape? no. If you want to apply some filtes across the board in one shot, then yes. Such as Broadcast Safe or Levels or something like that. But for just laying out to tape, nope, no need.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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OK thanks thanks for help.
KB
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Walter’s right – no need. Can I just add that sometimes I have found nesting causes instability in FCP – I’ve noticed a few out of memory errors after doing it. Don’t forget that nesting in effect causes you have MORE open sequences, something that inevitably places more load on the system.
So – in effect, nesting is more likely to make the print to tape process LESS stable. Whilst it may give you a neater looking timeline, all you’re doing is sweeping the mess under the carpet, not actually clearing it up.
If you have problems with your print to tape, instead of nesting you should export the timeline as a quick time movie (current settings) and place the resulting single clip in a new timeline – if you have the spare capacity on your drives.
Ben
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Very good to know – thank you.
KB
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I’d like to 2nd the above comments. Though there are good reasons to nest, such as multilayer effects, nesting seems more trouble than it’s worth. Just yesterday I had a major problem because of nested sequences in a timeline (Time Ramping issues were also at fault) . If for whatever reason, you’re having a crazy amount of dropped frames on edit to tape, or print to video, I would export @ current settings a self-contained video and import it into it’s own project. This has saved us hours of headaches.
Winston A. Cely
Editor
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OK, once I import the QT mov of my sequence, before I print to tape, do I still need to do an audio mixdown?
KB
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Do audio mixdown before making QT.
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Thanks to all for the help…
KB
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If you’re exporting a Quicktime with 2 channel audio, your effectively mixing down on that export. No need to mixdown once you reimport.
Joe Murray
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