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DSLR dilemma
I’m new to DSLR, Canon 60d. Have lots of experience with Sony HVR cameras (with cassettes) and am forcing myself into this new thing. I’ve learned that audio on 60d is awful and that I need a separate recorder w/lav(Zoom,etc).Okay with that,I have lots of double system experience with film.
But here’s the thing, with Sony HVR’s I can shoot an hour straight, however with DLSR it stops apparently after 12 min or so (2 GB). How does one manage to do interviews with this stopping and starting?
Do I just shoot and with dlsr camera until it stops, press button and start over again. Meanwhile audio from zoom recorder is still on as it’s on interviewee’s belt.
Don’t want to do a clap or other to give camera a start point again? Or just shoot it all, stop&start and try to figure out audio after. I can re-sync manually of course.
Again, how do you do interviews with stop/start issue of DSLR’s.
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Use Pluraleyes to automatically sync your audio track with your collected onboard audio:
https://www.redgiant.com/products/all/pluraleyes/
You’ll want to pay attention to your camera to make sure you catch the exact moment it cuts off. This is definitely a big weakness of DSLR’s. The last thing you want is a line of dialogue that’s gold that you didn’t catch on video. That said, get lots of b-roll (sometimes them smiling or laughing is enough). That way, if you don’t have the video of them saying something, but you have the audio, you can still use it and just cover it up.
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gh2, gh3 dlsr unlimited recording time
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Sorry, don’t understand?
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Adobe Premiere CC can sync audio and video automatically. Not as flexible as Plural Eyes, but it’s a nice inside app solution.
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[Jim Makichuk] “Sorry, don’t understand?”
He’s saying that with the Panasonic GH series EVIL cameras, the record time is only limited to the size of the SD card. I once recorded for 7 hours straight with my GH2. No stopping and restarting!
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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Looked up GH3 camera… darn… why didn’t you tell me this before 🙂
Actually it looks pretty darn good, but question is why can GH3 shoot for longer?I thought it’s about the sensor getting warm or some kind of tax put on DSLR’s if they gave more time?
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[Jim Makichuk] “why can GH3 shoot for longer? “
Superior engineering 🙂
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
Video production… with style!Check out my Mormon.org profile.
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A few things that will work with any camera. First, start a new clip while the interview subject is listening to you ask the next question, it only takes a couple of seconds to start a new clip.
Avoid letting the camera run to its max clip length and stopping itself – I try never go beyond 10 minutes for instance. There are lots of reports online of various camera models failing to close the file properly when this happens and reporting the file as corrupt meaning that clip is lost unless you go to special efforts to try and recover it. Same with the battery, never let the battery completely run out of power while you are recording – that will corrupt the file too.
Steve Crow
Crow Digital Media
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If you have a second camera, do an overlap shoot with another angle, or use a still or motion/effect.
In post, Slow down, zoom to where one cannot see the lip synch, pan from one side (comp) then cross fade back to real time, or show object being discussed, the facility, audience, product, etc. to sew up the video gap.
As Steve points out, the golden sound bite looms however.
The limitations are caused (generally) by international tariffs and yes Panasonic devised a method to circumvent the time limits (Superior marketing).
Also, some cheap some not, HD enabled DSLRs can go straight to an external HDMI recorder like the Ninja 2, which like the GH series will then only be limited by battery life and storage capacity so as NOT to shut down at 5 (D90, D3S), 12 (Canon), 20 or 29 minutes (D7000) and newer etc.
RM
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Congratulations of getting in DSLR shooting
I know I’m a bit late on responding but I hope it helps.
many of Canon’s DSLR cameras recording format for SDCards is that it would stops about 12minutes due to the write format is FAT32 system, They did since recently, with firmware update (like t4i, 5d3, 6d, 70d, 7d, etc) you can record up to 30mins continuously (the file would be broken down to several 12mins long clips internally).
When synching up the audio with external devices, you will be able to sync it easily, and if you do the quick stop and record, you really don’t need to slate again since you can use the audio’s wave file to sync it up fairly quickly (I can do that faster than pluraleyes can do).
60D can only record up to 12mins and it will stop, so the stop and go would be useful, if you are using a sdcard that is faster than 40MB/s write speed, you should probably have like 5-10sec audio lost.
Best practice when I do video shoot with the 60d back then, was to stop interviews right about 11mins. for long events, 60d may not be a smart thing to do unless you have a separate camera or don’t care of the lost of 5-10 seconds during stop/record.
Lastly, you may want to keep in mind that when you sync the audio and video together with Canon’s DSLRs (most of them), you need to make sure to move the audio track two frames back so it will sync with the video 100% (trust me, even though your playback on your editing system may look synced, when you export, you will notice the differences when showing on big tv).
I believe that issue was ‘resolved’ with the 6d, 70d cameras. (I haven’t had to do the frame adjustment, but I do have to do that with 5D3).
Johnny
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