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  • To CC or not to CC?

    Posted by Ron Whitaker on November 23, 2013 at 12:39 am

    I’m currently using the Adobe Creative Cloud (CC) After Effects as I learn it and am actually loving the product.

    There’s just that “renting” software thing that kinda bugs me.

    For those Adobe users on the forum, do you CC or not? If so, what are you likes and dislikes?

    So, to quote Shakespeare: “To CC or not to CC. That is the question.”

    Steve Rhoden replied 12 years, 5 months ago 8 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Bob Peterson

    November 23, 2013 at 1:22 am

    I am on CS6 and do not plan to move to the CC. Renting anything on a long term basis is a very losing proposition. I believe CC will open the door for competitive products to emerge, and I will wait for that before using the CC. I have gotten the impression that there are already competitive products for After Effects, and I would try those out before spending time on After Effects.

    My main use of Adobe right now is Photoshop, and the CS6 version of Photoshop has all the capability that I can imagine needing. The main reason to upgrade in the past was to preserve my ability to process raw images from new cameras via the PS interface. If I get a camera in the future which CS6 does not support and there are no competing products to fill the gap, my plan is get Lightroom. It is much cheaper than PS, and can do the same raw image processing. The output of Lightroom can then be further edited by CS6 Photoshop.

    A point well taken is that, if you stop paying for CC, your ability to access projects which were developed when using it is gone. You lose the ability to access all your previous work.

  • Stephen Mann

    November 23, 2013 at 3:06 am

    I own CS5 and absolutely will not go to the ransomeware model that Adobe has started. (Are you paying attention, Sony)? CS5 does all I ever will need to make my DVD menus and labels. I could “upgrade” to CC for just $20/month forever, but it’s the forever part that sucks. No, thank you – I’ll stick with CS5. On the rare occasions that I need some AE work, I hire it out. I cannot justify the cost and the huge learning curve for those rare times that AE would be the best tool.

    I upgrade when there are compelling new features that I want. Adobe has run out of new features, so they had to resort to the ransom model to keep the cash flow running. If I am correct, look for the development team at Adobe to shrink over the next few years. After all, why develop new features when your customer base is already a hostage? No compelling new features, cut the dev team, make more profit. What’s not to like if you are an Adobe shareholder?

    Bob, you don’t lose your files – just the program to edit them stops working when you stop paying the ransom. You can always take them to someone who drank the Kool-Aid.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • John Rofrano

    November 23, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    [Bob Peterson] “I am on CS6 and do not plan to move to the CC. Renting anything on a long term basis is a very losing proposition.”

    Me too. I’ll use CS6 until it stops working. CC would cost me twice as much per year as I’ve paid in the past so it is a loosing proposition for me too.

    [Stephen Mann] “I own CS5 and absolutely will not go to the ransomeware model that Adobe has started. (Are you paying attention, Sony)?”

    Agreed. I will not be held hostage by Adobe. Could you imagine a carpenter renting his hammer, or a painter renting his paint brush? Artists need to own the tools that they use and be free to use them for as long as they serve their purpose. Telling me that when I stop paying rent that my tools stop working is a deal breaker for me. I can’t agree to that.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Theo Van laar

    November 23, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    [Ron Whitaker] “There’s just that “renting” software thing that kinda bugs me.”

    You can still buy the CS6 version from Toolfarm. So you dont have to rent if you don’t want to do that.

    Theo

  • Graham Bernard

    November 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Daft . . . it’s all very, very daft . . .

    G

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • John Rofrano

    November 24, 2013 at 1:29 am

    [Theo van Laar] “You can still buy the CS6 version from Toolfarm. So you dont have to rent if you don’t want to do that.”

    The problem with that is you would be spending a lot of money on a dead product. Acording to Adobe CS6 will never be updated. Ron doesn’t have any Adobe products. To start learning After Effects now means you had better like CC or else you are throwing your time away learning a dead product like CS6. If you want to learn a composting tool for the PC that has a future, you would be better off learning Boris RED. It plugs right into Vegas Pro so it eliminates the rendering problems with AE and it even runs AE plug-ins.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    November 24, 2013 at 2:48 am

    CS6 is not a dead product John, its what i use, and i wont rent
    any software. CS6 Can be used for years to come. Today you can even
    use old Adobe CS tools to complete your current projects.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Stephen Mann

    November 24, 2013 at 4:19 am

    John, as I said before, CS5 does all I need. I will never pay the ransom. I would have considered upgrades as Adobe introduces compelling new features, but not a ransom.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    November 24, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Adobe has gotten a tad bit arrogant in their approach, They wont get
    my further support going down this route. And i see Autodesk has
    adopted this same unreasonable path.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Graham Bernard

    November 24, 2013 at 11:52 am

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    [Steve Rhoden] “Adobe has gotten a tad bit arrogant in their approach”
    _______________________________________________________________

    I could kinda excuse this “arrogance”, if they were actually ADDING to the creative experience/option by doing this – but I can’t see that they are. Can you, or anybody?

    The Free Market is great. People can vote with their feet, and here that equates to their wallets.

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

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