[Zach Rutledge]

I always use uncompressed. Sure the file sizes are bigger but you know everyone will be able to play the raw file.

[Zach Rutledge]

Seth, it is nice to know that at least someone actually READ what I posted. I had a feeling it was some kind of capture issue since I was seeing the same thing in both 60i footage and 24p footage. I will continue to test and play with settings on the card and FCP. Thanks again!

Jeremy, for some reason you have not been able to grasp what I was asking. I thought I was not making myself clear but then when Seth understood what was being asked…well. For some reason you have been so fixated on 24p you did not clearly read any of my posts.

Because Zach knows what menu to tweak in the SDX to get from 24p to 60i does not mean he knows what to do with the footage, or combine the two different kinds of footage (no offense, Zach, I am sure you’re a bright guy)

Who said anything about combining the two types of footage into one sequence? I sure did not…oh and by the way, none taken.

Seth, but have you looked at 24p footage on a frame by frame basis before? Have you captured 24p NTSC video before? With a Kona? With a dv50 deck? Do you even know what settings could be changed on that deck? If so, why aren’t you offering any advice?

He did actually by saying that is might be a capture issue and maybe I should call AJA.

So, in Zach’s case, he is trying to deinterlace footage in which 66% of it is already progressive.

Is 60i footage 66% progressive?

So, back to Zach’s case. What he needs to do is conform his 60i video to look more like 24p video with pulldown (I think, he won’t tell me).

I don’t believe I said I wanted to take 60i footage and give it a 24p look.

I, as well as, everyone on here knows you “volunteer” your time to these forums but it does no good to speak in circles on issues that might be related to the topic, if the original question(s) are not being answered.

So one more time, for good fun, forget that 24p even is in question, if I shoot in 60i and I get that artifacting around images, I must be doing something wrong. So to make it simple, how should a piece of 60i footage be captured, what should the Kona LHe card bet set at, what should the sequence in FCP be set at. If all is done by your recommendations then I should not see this problem. Help if you want.

[Zach Rutledge]

I have been working with the SDX900 for a couple of years now, so I know how to set the camera to record in 60i and 24p when I want to.

Let me break this down as simply as possible.

I have two separate tapes from two separate shoots.

One shoot was recorded using 24p.

One shoot was recorded using 60i.

Both pieces of footage, when laid in the same timeline set-up, show the same artifacting issues when deinterlaced.

Considering there is no pull down with the 60i footage and a 2:3 pulldown with the 24p footage, I would not think the pulldown is the issue.

BTW:

I read over the the link you had posted several times now and had seen that information before.

[Zach Rutledge]

what is the best way to post some footage for you to look at?

[Zach Rutledge]

I will post some footage in a minute. What I was stating was I just happened to have shot both formats and in my testing to see what is wrong used both types of footage with the same result. I am not trying to confuse anyone but I was trying to state that I had shot in 60i and had the SAME result as in 24p. I was under the impression, since it was stated in the SDX900 manual, that the 24p mode was just a “look” not actually 24fps, is this not the case?

Still back to square one, if both 24p setting and 60i setting come out looking like the same after I deinterlace the footage, wouldn’t one assume that the pulldown has no effect on my issue?

[Zach Rutledge]

Tom, not sure what you mean about “Could you explain why the material was shot at 24p with pulldown added? What was the point of that? ” since we are shooting in 24p but not adding a pulldown back in? Sorry, just got lost on that question so if you could explain further please what you mean. Thanks.

[Zach Rutledge]

We shot footage on the same camera, the SDX900, using the 60i mode having the same effect as the 24p footage when deinterlaced. Even if what you are saying is correct with both 24p and 24pa modes having a pulldown, this should not apply to the 60i footage. So the problem does not appear to be a pulldown issue.

Also, Tom mentioned that the images I posted were not 100%. As stated earlier they are a full 720×486 image. One deinterlaced with the FCP filter, the other without. And as you can see, around heads and shoulders you see some kind of jagged edges that are formed.

I was really thinking it was a set up problem either in the camera, deck, capture card, or Final Cut.

I have tried using Compressor with no luck.

So if shooting on a SDX900 in the 24p mode, can anyone help me with the proper settings in the camera, Final Cut, Kona LHe card and deck to hopefully prevent this from happening?

[Zach Rutledge]

A colleague of mine, once I told him about your post and question, said he did not believe 24p had a pulldown but that the 24pa mode was the one with the pulldown. Is this not the case?

[Zach Rutledge]

We go both to beta for tv and to web.

[Zach Rutledge]

I have tried all options, setting the sequences to none, with the deinterlace set to lower, I have even tried setting the sequence to lower and not deinterlacing the footage and tried both setting it to lower and deinterlacing the footage and I have also tried combination of the upper field just to see what it would do.