Viki Kumar
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But rendering time doesnt matter LKJ ! Because my clips are hardly 5 mins long in total composition (maybe some 25 clips of few secs duration) I only do triler type of videos and the max res output i need is only for dvd resolution. In my experience that is a short duration and more of domestic resolution requirement. But how user friendly is vegas ? Does it have good effects etc ? How is the quality of the output. Also how is the quality of the chroma etc ?
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Yes Jimmy. In fact im planning to buy the same camera. LOL. What a coincidence. One is because its native widescreen. Secondly because of the convenience of direct to dvd. And the steadyshake is damn good too. Poor mans steadycam !. Hey Jimmy. Why would you want to use a demultiplexer third party software. I think if you dont finalize the dvd. The files remain as mpeg2 which adobe after effects and premiere boast that they can edit. Correct me if im wrong please. Have you tried this. Taking the raw mpeg 2 from the dvd ?
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I also have one more doubt. My main purpose is to only edit and burn dvds. For commercial purposes. Im not gong to edit more than dvd resolution. So which other editing program can i get that will be sufficient for this purpose. Is there anything simpler and easier to use like sony vegas etc. Something thats very reliable and somewhere between the premiere pro and windows moviemaker segment ? Thanks a ton guys.
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But is the quality that you get on DV tape richer than dvd quality ?
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But do you think my processor is not suffecient. Its at least above the minimum specs right. 1.7 ghz is not a bad machine (i think). Heres the best part (though i think im repeating it again and again. LOL. Im talking about a 1 minute clip. Normal AVI. Small size. About 20 mb. And it cant handle that ? Im surprised ! Then i tried an mpeg2 file which was transfered from a DV pro camera down into mpeg2. The damn thing just froze 23 times in a row. Since that day ive never opened premiere pro. Its too depressing to have it hand for such small things. I woudl like you to ask you to think again on what you said about WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER. I wont claim im in a professional league as many of you here. But im a serious student of 3d. And have officially done my 3ds max course etc. So i know (and completely agree) that WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER and PREMIERE PRO are a totally different league. But i was comparing that a mediocre program like MOVIE MAKER can handle this, and why cant premiere pro. Windows Movie Maker even handles large size mpegs, avis, EVEN UNCOMPRESSED FORMAT ! But the reason im so enthusiastic to slove this issue is because i really want to learn premiere pro in detail. But this is discouraging me. Please give me your opinion.
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HI ALEXUS,,,
Whatever you read in the previous posts. FORGET ALL WHAT THEY SAID. Do you know 3ds MAX ?. If you do reply me. And ill tell you how to do it in 5 minutes flat in a much easier way. Even if you dont know max you dont need training for this. I can teach you step by step how to do it. If you can open max and click a few buttons.
Bye
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Hi I dunno if this idea is dumb or anything But if u work 3d too. Ive done this using 3ds max. And u get amazing results and flexibility. Almost like really zooming into the picture. Another thing is the 3d camera takes a visual image directly like photographing a picture. So you wont get the pixellation like u do if u zoom in at the actual image. The virtual cam doesnt bother with the resolution but what it can see. And it recreates a visual optical version of its view in a very high res (what uve set as output res in your 3d render dialog). Try this. Its amazing. Its like taking a small picture. Putting it on a table top and photographing that photo with a 9 megapixel camera. Ull get a very high resolution version of the small photo. Burn me if im wrong but i did this once in max instead of using the video edit program. And it worked like a dream. Bye.
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Hi Redgum,
Thanks that was at least inspiring. I was confused that the adobe site gives specs similar to my system as mimimum requirements. Then it should at last run right ?
I open adobe premiere pro. Import only this one small avi. Duration = 30 Secs. Its in Mpeg 1 too. So not more than about 20 mb in file size. And when i add it to a sequence etc. And try to play the seq. Just that plain one file. The monitor which shows the sequence plays the video as if its struggling. I mean the video and audio stutters and never plays in a flow (this is the right hand side monitor of the 2 ones which appear on the top. Now Redgum is this normal behavior or is it happening only in my system ? that too for such a miniscule file ?
Now i got one of my live events (yes im in the live events industry) shot completely in DV PRO (Shot on SONY PD-170) then i took the file output onto my hard disk in MPEG2 format with a very high bitrate (which the studio said would have more clarity). The total rush footage on the DV Tape was about 1.5 hrs. The total space these files took on my external hard disk was about 3.9 GB. The file was given in 4 chunks for ease. All this was done because i wanted to finally burn the output as a demo showreel. So this means my final video was only going to be about 3 to 4 minutes. Now i import one of these chunks (about 900 MB size) into premiere pro directly from the external hard drive. It plays within PREM PRO with the usual stuttering. But the sound never plays (but there is sound in the orginal chunk which i checked in windvd player). I even tried a test render of a small segment. Which it rendered quite well in about 5 minutes for a 20 secs region. No sound in the rendered output too. Then i dropped a single color correction filter onto the file for a tester. The damn machine froze and had to CTRL ALT DEL. Tried it 7 more times. When i drop the color filter. FREEZE which leads to CTRL ALT DEL.
Im sorry Redgum, but i had to give you the entire picture.
Whats happening ? Like you said. Ive heard of guys working on combustion, Flint etc on machines like mine. That too im looking at making small 2 to 3 mins clips. Do i really need a desktop to work on such a minscule file. All i want is just a small demo showreel. If i cant even do that,,,,, what good is Premiere Pro ?
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Hi Mike,
Im so happy you replied. Thanks.
To clear some things
Firstly i dont do the capture thru adobe premiere pro. Remm i said the studio shoots it all. Then they give me the output. So they are willing to give it in any format requested. So ihave nothing to do with the capture but to specify what sort of capture i want. I dont know anything about DIRECTSHOW TYPE 2 can you gist me in on that ? Secondly i didnt wanna confuse the issue by telling you already what i had done but now i will. I got my dv tape transfered onto hard disk. At MPEG2 with a very high bitrate (what do you feel about very high bitrate BAd / Good) this was PAL 720 x 576 resolution) But it didnt occupy 13 gb. In fact 1.5 hrs of shoot came to about 3.9 gb totally.
About the machine config…
Could you suggest me the ultimate desktop machine that can handle this with ease.
Im basically into 3ds max and recently got into premiere pro.
Do you feel avid express is less demanding in hardware specs than premiere pro ? And does it give more features than premiere.What do you feel about..
3.4 ghz (amd or intel which would u suggest)
Hyerthreaded.
or should for a dual processor ? Opteron ? Xeon ?
2 GB RAM
what kind of hard disk should i look for (large capacity of course) SCSI or ???
Should i have 2 independent harddrives on the machine than one single ?
What kind of Graphics card should i have ? Id prefer one in which i can watch the monitor out on a small TV. So i can calibrate the contrast etc suitably. Otherwise what looks one way on the monitor might look different when played from DVD on a normal TV !
Ill take all your suggestions seriously. Since whom could advise me better than you.