[Ty Ford]

[clyde villegas] “Now my next question is this: can I put a battery inside the NTG2 and turn on my H6’s phantom power so i can even lower the recorder’s volume? Will this damage the mic or the H6?”

If you put a battery in the NTG2, you should turn off the phantom power on your recorder. Turing on the phantom power has nothing to do with recording volume, but it will lengthen the battery life of your recorder. Some recorders do not like being plugged into a battery powered microphone. Increased noise is usually the result.

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[Ty Ford]

and please know that the word is damp, not dampen.

Dampen means you wet something.

Damp means you reduce vibration.

Yes, booming is a skill that requires that you learn how to move your hands quietly, however, an inadequate suspension mount can ruin your entire day.

That’s why I pointed you at the Rycote gear.

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[Ty Ford]

Dre,

I feel you pain. 🙂

Is the phantom power turned on on the H6?

“Why would one condenser lav (a Sony in this case) work in the H6 while a nearly identical and newer condenser lav (a Shure in this case) will not? … and ALL mics worked in the H6 when I first got it & was testing it out a couple of months ago.”

Same cable and input? That’s pretty weird. Are all of them using XLR connectors and all plugged into the same H6 input?

Yes, why would one mic work and the others not. Does the H6 have adjustable phantom power voltage? Some have 12, 16, 24 and 48 volts. Check to see and if you have a choice, bump it up to 48.

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“If you’re using high-quality condenser (powered) microphones with the H6, no problem—a simple menu option allows the unit to provide Phantom Power (either +12, +24, or +48 volts) to any or all of the main inputs (inputs 1-4). Inexpensive condenser microphones requiring Plug-In Power (2.5 volts) can be connected to the X/Y capsule’s stereo 1/8” Line In jack. “

How about that?

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[Ty Ford]

Hello Dre and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Hard to say without more info like the particular mics and cables, etc.

Maybe some of the mics that sort of work just need bias voltage and others need actual phantom power.

Likely the XF105 doesn’t provide enough bias voltage to fire them up.

Could be something as simple as a bad cable.

“Tried a 4th mic (XLR plug) in the Zoom — and it works! Go back to the other mics — they don’t work.”

They don’t work plugged into what?

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Hello Minco and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Hard to say without hearing. Try another mic, try another cable. The old process of elimination usually tells the story.

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[Ty Ford]

Hello Clyde and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Perhaps it’s not so perfect after all.

It might be interesting to try a more industry standard rig to determine whether the handling noise is caused by a lack of isolation or a lack of boom operating experience.

Some years back Sennheiser brought a mic to market that exhibited quite a bit of handling noise. The invision INV-7 suspension mount from Rycote did a great job of getting rid of the handling noise.

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Hmm, can’t tell exactly, but angling the speakers towards the right in the room and away from the mics might help some.

Basically, it’s a rock and a hard place situation. If people don’t get up on the mic, there’s not a lot you can do.

Are the mics only for PA? If they are there to record what’s said, then if you have a gain control after the recorder for the PA, then you can get good record levels and adjust the amount that goes to thew PA system. That’ll allow you to stay further away from feedback.

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Or, toss out the table mics and rig them all with Headworn mics like the countryman B6. They can’t get away from them and they are very lightweight.

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Hello Dan and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

How many mics are you running?

How many people are talking into them?

Can you please post a picture of the setup?

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And for anyone reading this thread later, yes, a mixer might be advantageous.

If you have varying performance volumes, it’s a lot easier to adjust gain on a mixer than trying to adjust audio gain on a camera or wireless receiver.

Performance volumes can vary for many reasons. One is the emotional state of a scene can vary from quiet to loud and the other is that some people SPEAK THER FIRST FEW WORDS of every sentence a lot louder than the rest of the paragraph. If the background noise is quiet enough, a good sound tech can anticipate this and start with the gain pulled down a bit, then raise it as the voice quiets down to make a more uniform track.

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