[Ts O’grady]

If Apple sold 2 million copies of FCP, a professional editing program, how could they come to the conclusion that an upgraded version of FCP, with all the professional features, would sell only a few thousand? They wouldn’t, and they wouldn’t turn their back on the professional user base that, in part, made it a success. FCP was considered a toy by many when it first came out, in part because the average Joe could now plug in his DV Cam via firewire and start editing. Your contention that professional software is a small market completely ignores FCPs history and it’s ability to span several markets successfully. So no, I wasn’t trying to point out that you had FCP’s price wrong, I was trying to point out that your view of the market is wrong and FCPs history proves it.
BTW, many on these forums contend that Apple’s embracing of the amateur DSLR users, with their Mac Book Pros and copies of FCP X, proves that FCP X is a consumer product. Sound familiar? History repeats itself.

[Ts O’grady]

[David Johnson] “It’s just basic math – sell a few thousand $1000 products that require major recurring R&D investment; or, sell millions of $300 products that only require re-printing a version number on the box … oops, I forgot … no box either.”

FCP has 2 million users and has always cost at least $1000. Do the basic math.

[Ts O’grady]

Really? An Apple death knell? Really?
It’s interesting to hear people claim that the pro market is unimportant to Apple, who would gladly give it up so it can make so much money with the prosumer market, while simultaneously elevating the status of the pro market to such an extent that ignoring it will mark the demise of Apple.

[Ts O’grady]

The consistency of the UI in FCP X is obvious. I think your committee argument is backwards. It’s actually FCS that looks like it was designed by committee, not FCP X, and for good reason – it was a mix of Apple bought and Apple developed software. In fact it was the mix of different UIs and inconsistant features that FCP editors wanted fixed in FCS.

[Ts O’grady]

Ten years ago FCP editors were told that FCP wasn’t a professional program and although in some ways FCP was running circles around Avid and Media 100, it took years for the smear to wear off. I’m afraid we’re going to have to go through that again. Unfortunately, this time it’s the FCP editors who can’t be bothered to do their own research, keep an open mind and spend some time with the program that are spreading the lie. It’s always easier to be cynical and negative but I wonder if they can look past their self perpetuating anger and see, if there’s a possibility they will be using FCP X in the future, how badly they are setting themselves up for the same ridicule.

[Ts O’grady]

600 out of 1.5 million users? Come on, these petitions are silly, especially this one. At least the other one has sane demands. You realize that you would need 15,000 signatures to have just 1% of the worldwide user base on board?

[Ts O’grady]

Until Apple buys them.

Just kidding. 🙂

[Ts O’grady]

Oops. Sorry. As far as I can tell the 13 inch Mac Book Pro on up and any of the iMacs. Both start at $1199.
Cheers.

[Ts O’grady]

There were $15 an hour jobs before FCP X and shops like that will continue to post them going forward. Low pay, high aggravation and little satisfaction in a shop with a lot of turnover is perfect for recent college grads and that’s who they’ll get. Nothing new here. I see them all the time on craigslist. I don’t know why any of you would consider this an indication of what FCP X editors have in store for the future. It’s the same argument folks made back when DV editing and FCP 1 started. The sky was going to fall back then too. I don’t make $15 an hour, do you?

[Ts O’grady]

[Buddy Couch] “Whats even more strange is most of the disdain comes from people who admittedly haven’t purchased it.”

Or taken the time to dig into it. What I’m finding increasingly annoying is the members who have moved onto other NLEs (or are just saying that) but stick around the forum to hijack posts and hawk other systems. Over time I’m sure some of them will get bored of saying the same things over and over again, or become satisfied that they have sold enough copies of Adobe Premiere, that they might move along and the Cow can merge the two forums together. But I can’t help but think that at some point soon the Cow leaders will need to step in and do something about the members who are just there to aggravate and sell copies of other NLEs.