Tony West
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[Michael Aranyshev] “FCPX still doesn’t get basic editing right so it shouldn’t be included in this discussion at all but yes, you cannot work without the mouse in any current NLE. And that’s a shame.”
Half of editing (if not more) is scanning through your footage to look for shots.
The skimmer makes that faster than anything else to me. You use the mouse with the skimmer.
Why wouldn’t I want to use that skimmer?
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[Andrew Kimery] ” I was just providing a first hand account of co-workers getting blind sided by change, and why they most likely allowed it to happen.”
Yes, I understand that, I’m saying that wouldn’t happen to me with X
I don’t expect to be on the same software 10 years from now. I just don’t think like that.
I expect change. I don’t feel “blind sided” when they change.
[Andrew Kimery] ” If we tried to pick which programs would still be around in 2035 would it be anymore than just guessing?”
Exactly.
BTW Andrew I meant that “disservice” part as kind of tongue in cheek. I should have put a happy face at the end so it didn’t read so harsh. Sorry brother.
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[Walter Soyka] “I’m not arguing that this is a reason to avoid FCPX. I think that’s a bit silly. FCPX a really compelling application. I’m just trying to explain why the pace of development carries the weight it does among people not committed to FCPX.”
Yes, I hear you Walter
1. folks were on here predicting that there was not going to be a new Mac Pro because of pace
2. I’m using X because it’s the best fit for me right now. I could go to Pr or AVID anytime I want to.
There is nothing stopping me from doing whatever I want.When the time comes when something fits my needs better I will just jump to that. It wouldn’t be that big of a deal to me.
If I’m cutting 10 years from now I “expect” to be on something different anyway. Don’t you?
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[Andrew Kimery] ” I think a lot of people say they expect change to happen but they don’t prepare for change to happen. “
I know they don’t. I’m saying that’s their fault for not preparing for it. It’s not someone else’s fault you didn’t prepare.
[Andrew Kimery] “I was working with at the time were pretty young career wise (25-30ish) and FCP Legend was the only NLE they knew. “
Yes, I was that age once also Andrew. All I knew was timecode online editing when AVID came out.
I made adjustments to the reality so I could keep working. Many people tossing this line are a long way from 20 years old so you are reaching in the context of this forum : ))Young folks have it way better than I did when I was coming up. If you didn’t get in a post house or had money you couldn’t even get in the game.
Nobody helped you learn anything. You were their competition. Anything you learned outside of college you had to learn it on your own. Couldn’t just go online and watch people teach you the trade for FREE
No plug-ins to just drop in.Man up! Young folks
Stop making excuses for young people who don’t think change is coming and teach them that it is.
You are doing them a disservice.
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[Andrew Kimery] “[Tony West] “How much does any of this really matter when you think about it. Who thinks they will be working on the same program for the rest of their career anyway.”
The people that are still mad about FCP X being the replacement for FCP 7 probably did.”
I don’t know why they would think that. Everything is constantly changing in this field.
SD HD 6k you name it. The only thing anybody should know in this field is that there will be many changes ahead.
You might not “like”it but you should “expect” it
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “[Walter Soyka] “But looking at products like Motion, which is now 11 years old and still running, or Aperture which was 10 when EOLed, Apple seems to have a tendency to produce something awesome, revolutionary and promising in version 1, develop it to a certain point in a flurry of activity over a few years… and then not take it significantly further.
Apple has earned a bit of reputation here, which is why the point of current slow development carries the weight it does outside of “the faithful.” This line of conversation doesn’t pause until Apple makes like a real artist and ships, and it doesn’t end until they do it consistently for a while.
”this is the bottom line, and pretty much everyone knows it.”
How much does any of this really matter when you think about it. Who thinks they will be working on the same program for the rest of their career anyway.
I started cutting in the mid 80’s on 3/4 inch machine to machine.
Then moved to cmx (better)
Then moved to AVID (better)
Then moved to FCP (I liked it better)
Then moved to X (I like it better)
I like X but something will come along years from now that I like better. Isn’t that just part of reality?
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[Jim Wiseman] “May I make the observation that the older we get, the more threatening the rental model is? If you are working on the projects you consider your legacy, can you really afford to be paying monthly for your software to keep your projects alive?”
Have to admit Jim, this is an angle I never thought of. It’s real, and thoughtful.
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[Bob Zelin] “Apple iPhone 6s will have 4K.”
It doesn’t matter Bob. It’s not a practical camera to do demanding production with.
Last job I did, 2 talent, 2 wireless mics, wireless video out to the client monitor from the stedi
They are not going to do a simple commercial shoot with that phone. Not going to happen. On the other hand I should have had a sound guy with me and a gaffer. So that’s been cut. You get fewer people but you are expected to bring home more.
Think about it like this, the DSLRs came out and changed the game, but then people figured out that it was an impractical camera to shoot with in a lot of ways. They put out the C300 to cover what was missing. That’s a long way from an iPhone in cost and in what it can do.
So the 5d is lacking on demanding shoots but the iPhone isn’t? Nope
When I started doing the robo cam on sports in 99 everybody said “that’s it, it’s going to take all of our jobs!” Never happened. It’s tiny 20X lens can’t get tight enough across the playing field to compete with a 100x. There are more hard cameras on games now than there where in 99
It went the other way.I still say 4k files are too big for most TV jobs. Just takes up too much space on the drives for what you are going to use it for.
2 hour sit-down interview at 4k ProRes is like 903 GB same shoot with 1080 XDCAM is 47 GB
New shiny objects abound.
Not time to panic just yet : )
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“Everyone here has their biases, and that’s honestly some of the particular flavor that makes this forum so interesting. In fairness and candor, I put mine clearly in my signature. Others might consider something similar.”
You are an “employee” of Adobe correct Dennis?
I think an employee should state that.
I also think there is a difference between an employee and a satisfied customer. One of those has the ultimate bias.
I appreciate your input on these topics though ; )
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“Out of curiosity, how many times are you willing to have the same goes-nowhere argument with the same people/same types of people for the possible benefit of fence sitters that may or may not be around? If there are identifiable fence sitters around why not focus on engaging with them and not continuing to focus on the person that’s obviously made up their mind? ”
If you are talking about when I’m in the work place, it really depends on the situation and what’s being said. In general, I tend not to let misinformation or a flat out lie, sit out there unchallenged.
If it does, it stands the chance of becoming real to people even if it has no bases in fact.