Tony West
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[Oliver Peters] “Merely reacting to the cheerleading tone.”
Exactly.
I’m just pointing out the inconstancy.
I didn’t see you saying Pr was “cheerleading” when they or folks who like to use it talked about Gone Girl.
Everybody does this. AVID, Pr, RED with their cameras. Everybody.
It seems silly to me to call Apple out for doing what EVERYBODY does.
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[Richard Herd] “Is the editor a monkey on the keyboard, a “human user interface” that the director controls instead of a keyboard?”
hahaha
I guess we will have to wait for the book to find out my brother : )
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[Oliver Peters] “I think you are getting wrapped around the axle and losing sight of the context. I never challenged the article’s accuracy”
I’m sorry, from the axle it looked like you were kind of dismissing the article when you called it this
“A nice article, but a HUGE puff piece.”
If you are saying the article is accurate then I guess we agree : )
[Oliver Peters] “But is it the entire story?”
No it’s not, the story is that somebody chose X over AVID and Pr for a large budget Hollywood film. Something many didn’t see happening early on.
Now the goal post must be moved to somebody getting an Oscar cutting on it, and when that happens, somebody will say……………it only has one ; p
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[Oliver Peters] “Tony, I just don’t understand how you read my reply in a way that indicates I ever said I doubted what the director was saying “
I think it was when you wrote this
“Seriously? This is an Apple marketing piece. C’mon.”
To me this says, don’t take the article serious and since the article uses quotes from the director you are dismissing those quotes also.
OK, so now you can clarify, which part should I take seriously?
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[Chris Harlan] “Wow, Tony. You certainly read between a lot of lines that I don’t even think are lines.”
OK, here is what I see. The director is speaking about his personal experience with this product on his film.
This is this man’s personal experience. If you doubt his experience and figure, for example he had a horrible experience but is saying that he had a great one, that would be like someone claiming he is lying about his experience.
Kind of like that quote that Bill posted from somebody saying that Apple had paid them to use it for the film.
If a person is claiming that he is not being truthful about his experience what is the evidence to back that up?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “But am I really the only person who is a bit stunned that the technology was put before the talent in this case?
“Everybody has to have a first feature film. Why can’t this be this guy’s?
If people with more talent than him didn’t bother to learn the new technology who’s fault is that?
The only reason I learned X was because I didn’t want people to have that advantage over me.
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[Shane Ross] “The fact that FCX was used in this case is no different.”
I disagree Shane.
Avid has been out there for a long time during his career. He could have gotten more involved with the process then.
But he didn’t until now.
If you jump around and talk about other directors you miss the point. You have to stick with this one guy and see how HIS behavior was changed and why.
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[Oliver Peters] “[tony west] “It makes people want to use it who previously didn’t want to be as involved with other NLEs
THAT’S what’s different about it. You keep trying to act like X is no different.”This is true for SOME. It’s equally true that others try it and want to throw the computer against the wall.”
But we are not talking about SOME. The article is not about SOME. This article is about a specific director in charge of a large budget Hollywood film. The kind of project that many said a director would not make this decision on. They were wrong, because he did. That’s all I’m saying.
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You are correct
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[Jeremy Garchow] ” I have long argued that while X might not turn an 11 month edit in to 3 months, you can get to the creative editing much more quickly”
and you have long been correct Jeremy.
It’s not that people can’t learn any software that’s out there. It’s never been easier to learn stuff. It’s not like we are working for NASA trying to land something on anther planet.
Our jobs are important contributions to society like theirs but in a different and creative way. X gets you to the fun creative part like you said.
I enjoy doing the Series but I don’t enjoy tearing out the truck afterwards. That’s just part of the job so I can do the game.
X is like the ops manager saying to me “you can just do the game and walk away at the end” ; p