Tony West
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Thanks for posting this amazing scene Herb.
I had never seen it.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “But this has nothing really to do with changing tastes – it has to do with market forces, lack of ambition, enslavement to technology and a host of other tiresome factors.”
I agree here Simon.
Getting back to that True Detective scene we liked so much. I remember after watching it I felt blown away, like I had been physically pulled into the scene. It took me a minute to figure out why.
I think it was so real because if you had been actually there that is how your eye would have scene what was happening. We don’t see in cuts in real life, we see continuously. So when I saw that scene it felt like I was in it. Because if I were, I would see it just like that.
When he comes into the house and looks out the window to see the guys standing there looking back at him. They could have cut to an outside shot but it was way more effective looking over his shoulder and through the window at them.
It takes so much time to plan something like that out and execute it. Time is money.
Compare Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon to Kill Bill
Yeoh and Ziyi were very skilled and Lee could stay on wide shots longer to show the beauty of their talent, as opposed to Lucy Lue who was was not skilled or athletic. They had to cut around those women in KB to make it work. They wanted those Hollywood ladies so they had to make it work.
I much preferred Tiger : )
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Glenn, thanks for sharing your thoughts on here. I’m looking forward to seeing the film.
I have enjoyed working with X myself, albeit not on as large a budget as yours.
I never saw why X couldn’t be used the way you guys used it, but it’s nice to see someone actually do it.
I’m glad it worked out for, and good advice on getting the ego’s aside.
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A good post Simon.
[Simon Ubsdell] “Today, there is no question that most mainstream movies are infinitely more “cutty” but there is a definite question mark as to whether that greater number of cuts makes for better story-telling.
“Is this do to people’s lack of attention span these days?
I am a fan of films that some would call “slow”
I prefer to have shots stay on the screen sometimes a little longer, but I admit, I always wonder if the multi tasking world will get bored watching.
Like when someone is in the middle of a conversation and they start looking at their phone.
The conversation is not enough for them.One of the best things I saw on TV in years was that one take scene in True Detectives last year.
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[Oliver Peters] “If your point was that the ‘essence’ of Color – i.e. a few looks and a way to layer corrections – was copied from Color into X – then I would agree with that.”
Then we agree
[Oliver Peters] “But going back to your earlier point, the level of color correction that you can do in X were possible in FCP 7 and are currently (and in the past) possible in Premiere Pro and Avid.”
I didn’t say they weren’t
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That I wasn’t the only one saying that
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“Has Apple’s Color Been Merged Into Final Cut Pro X?”
This is the question that was being asked by Patrick Inhofer on a blog post back in 2011
“I’ve decided to frame this initial review this way: Has FCPx absorbed the color correction tools of Apple Color (which seems to have been End Of Life’d) and are they faster and more powerful than those of FCP 7?”
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[Oliver Peters] “OK, that’s not even remotely close to true.”
What’s not true about it?
Those “looks” that are in X were not in legacy. Are they still updating color? What are you talking about?
[Oliver Peters] “You mean in Premiere? It’s an option of course, but today, I still have superior audio mixing capabilities inside Premiere Pro than I do in X.”
Yes, but it appears he cut a superior film than you have cut without it.
[Oliver Peters] ” I just don’t see how X keeps you in the program any more than any other NLE does. “
Then you need to ask him that. Because that’s what he said. Why do you think he said that?
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They got rid of Color for one and moved it inside of X
They want you to do much of what you might have done in Color inside X
I lot of people write about sending to audition for their sound mixing.
He didn’t mention any of that. He looked like he was mixing inside of X instead of sending it out.
I remember many saying X was hurt by not having a mixer. That didn’t seem to hurt Jan at all.
Once again, don’t ask me, ask Jan
That’s what he is talking about in the video that YOU posted.
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I found these videos really interesting.
I remember early on, one of the knocks on X was that you supposedly couldn’t collaborate with others with it. I found it ironic that the main reason they picked X was because they all wanted to work together.
What was supposed to be X’s down fall was to them, it’s strength. I was just wondering if anyone else picked up on that irony.
As always, some are looking for that magic bullet that separates X from other NLE’s and as many have said on here before, and is said in the videos by the guys who pulled this off, it’s not one thing.
What X has that is so alluring to many, is that it does so many things right all at once.
It’s not just one thing.I saw Tim discussing what the director was saying and that’ fine, but I wanted to focus (no pun intended 🙂
on what the editor Jan had to say. Since, he is a top end editor and hard to argue that he doesn’t know what he is talking about at this pint in his career.I watched some of his work flow and listened to what he had to say. It was not much different from what many have said on here for a while, when it came to what he liked.
Something that he mentioned that gets lost on here is the concept of staying put.
When X came out it was clear that they wanted to keep you inside the app for as much of the work as possible. listening to Jan, that seemed to work great for him. He talked about mixing his audio, visual effects and titles all in X
X is built around staying inside it as much as possible(with help from 3rd party apps that I saw him using) but saving time by not going outside.
The only thing faster than round tripping is no tripping.