[Tony West]

I went a different way on this. I have an EX1R and then I bought an F3

I can use the same cards in both cameras and the same batteries, plus the menus are mostly the same.

I love both cameras for certain jobs. While the F3 looks great for sit downs and that look that many clients want, it’s not the camera I want on a press conference.

They are easy to match also.

The only down side to this is the F3 is not cheap : )

[Tony West]

[Douglas K. Dempsey] “various clips or trims that I have decided NOT to use, but want to keep close by and visible as outtakes… because I may reconstitute them into the edit at any moment.

Once I am done pulling out these “non-selects” from a section of the edit, I will drag and select them all, hit cmd-G to make them into a single “secondary storyline” container, and drop that item at the end of my timeline,”

This is exactly how I work (accept I have remapped my keyboard to make cmd-G just G : )

I never had worked like this in the past because having all that extra stuff in the timeline with tracks would just be too cluttered.

Since the X timeline is so streamlined, which was one of the main points of it in the first place, I will have a bunch of clips sitting there muted that I will move around and try.

[Tony West]

Chris, doesn’t it depend on the situation?

For example, I’m working on a doc right now. I have quite a few academics in it. As I cut their sections, I send them youtube unlisted links for their approval. They love it. It’s a simple one click on their end and they can see it anywhere they have their smart phone.

the same goes for some of the other folks that are in my doc that are elderly. They would be lost with dropbox and don’t even have ftp, but they can click on that single link with no problem and also forward the email to their family members so they can all enjoy it together.

Now this is different than trying to send someone a finished file, but so much of what I send is not the finished file. I send more stuff to get it approved or just to show somebody something they may like than anything else. You are most likely only going to send the finished file once. Leading up to that you may send a bunch of files depending on how picky they are : )

I save time not waiting for the file to export and I like that.

Many corporate clients are not that tech savvy. They love that one click link on their end. They can see what I’m cutting on the golf course while they are waiting for the group ahead of them to putt out.

[Tony West]

That sounds totally awesome.

I kind of scratched my head when they stopped shy of the 7

If you’re gonna upgrade get the latest is what I figure.

I will pass on your info to them.

[Tony West]

In STL, I know of one Network and one independent producer who have gone with AVID 6.5

They both were convinced that 7 was too buggy to go with just yet. I have no idea if that’s true or not. I wanted see 7 first hand but I don’t know anybody that has it.

I know 2 local news stations still on Legacy and one on Edius.

Of the three post houses I have been to this year 2 went with Ppr and one is mainly using X
The one that’s using X is one of our most respected editors in town.

Of course a bunch of independent people have gone with X

They shoot Oprah’s reality show “Sweetie Pies” here and I saw those folks shooting on tape.
As they walked around the place with those huge bulky cameras I thought to myself, dang that looks heavy.

[Tony West]

[Ronny Courtens] “shooter/editors, are already bringing in logged or even pre-edited FCPX projects to our shop. We do the fine tweaking of the edit (FCPX), the finishing (Smoke/Flame, Resolve, ProTools…) and the conforming for broadcast, DCP or digital platforms for them. It’s a workflow I encourage because they do the bulk of the lower-end work and we can charge good money for our experienced people to polish, finish and deliver the projects.
“

Exactly the workflow I predicted would happen when I first saw X

The role I saw for big post houses was, working with people who start projects in X and then need someone with more advanced skills (smoke/flame) to get it over the finish line, and if you had that ability you would be in the catbird seat.

You’re a smart guy Ronny

[Tony West]

Thanks Brett, I will most likely do the same.

[Tony West]

[Bill Davis] “Really, the biggest part is that I just can’t afford to put so much time into this that I’m hurting my business by prepping large lessons every month.”

Yep.

I can see how it could be really time consuming. Challenges of finding presenters and trying to hook up with their schedules would be a challenge in itself.

All in all it was something decent to build on and I will look forward to seeing it develop.

[Tony West]

[Aindreas Gallagher] ” why exactly are entrants with X, however many they might be – how exactly is this supposed to work?”

Many students at college are being taught AVID but they have X on their personal computers.

They will approach stations or productions houses to get hired with their AVID skills.

If that fails, they will be out there with their 2 thousand dollar dslr’s and their X, hustling web and corp work.

It’s really about economics. Many College students don’t have much money. They have insane debt to payback these days.

You couldn’t get into the game years ago unless you had money. Now it doesn’t take near as much money.

They are coming in one way or another. They can afford the dslr and X

Do you have many interns working at your place?

Every year we get a bunch and I always ask them questions.

What are you learning on? What do you want to do? What are your goals?

They tell me what their plans and goals are.

I like to go to the horse’s mouth for info.
They are asking me questions about the biz and I’m asking them to see where things are going for them.

Things are so different now than when many of us got out of college.

And then there this……..

I was talking to a young person the other day and he told me that he wasn’t going to go to college.

That he was going to save his money and just buy a RED

I didn’t really like hearing him say that, but with the cost of college these days, I couldn’t really say it was a horrible plan.

[Tony West]

[Richard Herd] “I teach my students to edit in X. They’re High Schoolers.”

Indeed, when I said learning curve I didn’t mean that it would be hard for them to learn X

I agree, X is super user friendly, I just meant they might not want to even “try” to learn it.

[Richard Herd] “My question is when these kids (now 14-18) get into a “big studio,” what are they going to say? When they are bosses making business decisions in 15 years, what are they going to buy? “

I’m not sure, but I would think that with a bunch of young folks already trained on a software that they have been on since HS, it would be hard to ignore a large pool of young people that could get up and running in your shop.

[Richard Herd] “Now it appears I’m the old dude.”

hehehe