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So what is happening with NLE’s in your area
Posted by Steve Connor on August 10, 2013 at 3:53 pmI’m not cutting Broadcast at the moment, most of my contacts are one man shops or small corporate Production houses. Where I am no-one has moved to Avid, a few have switched to FCPX and some are still waiting for the next FCPX release before deciding
The move to subscription only CC hasn’t been popular with people I know.
How are things where you are?
Steve Connor
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John Pale
August 10, 2013 at 5:12 pmIn NYC, broadcast everyone is pretty much using Avid.. it was dominant before and still is. FCP Legacy is still there. Don’t know of anyone using FCPX or Premiere Pro. Don’t see many job postings for PPro or FCPX in the broadcast realm either. You do see them in lower budget and indie film job postings.
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Herb Sevush
August 10, 2013 at 5:44 pmJust did a search on Mandy (a video job search site)for Post Production, Fully Paid, in America. Of the editorial posts that specified NLE expertise I got these results:
FCP Legacy – 26
Avid – 9
Adobe – 5
FCPX – 2Of course there were many listings that didn’t specify anything, most of them from indie filmmakers looking for an editor to give their lives to a project for 3 months for $500.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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John Pale
August 10, 2013 at 5:48 pm[Herb Sevush] “Of course there were many listings that didn’t specify anything, most of them from indie filmmakers looking for an editor to give their lives to a project for 3 months for $500.”
Deferred. This will look great on your reel.
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Chris Harlan
August 10, 2013 at 6:53 pmIronically, I’ve spent the last two months on FCP 7. So, in LA, I’m seeing a slight uptick in freelance Avid, which was already dominant. I’ve also seen a couple of cable networks go Pr. I’m still seeing a lot of FCP 7, which probably has another year or more. I’m seeing more ads for X, and, of course, know folks like John Davidson, whose company has embraced it fully.
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Oliver Peters
August 10, 2013 at 7:10 pmIn the central Fl area (incl Orlando, Daytona, Tampa), there’s still a lot of FCP6/7 hanging on. Also some Avid in news and network operations. Of the companies that are making changes, including broadcast (creative services depts), prod/post companies and corporate environments, it’s almost all Adobe. This includes some very large companies. There are smatterings of FCP X, but it’s usually one-man shops or islands within larger operations. Definitely no FCP X jobs that I’ve seen advertised.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Chris Harlan
August 10, 2013 at 8:34 pm[Oliver Peters] “Of the companies that are making changes, including broadcast (creative services depts), prod/post companies and corporate environments, it’s almost all Adobe. “
I’m seeing this too. CC is very attractive to a company of a certain size, especially when they have creative needs beyond video and often have to expand or contract the workforce based on seasonal deployment.
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Oliver Peters
August 10, 2013 at 8:37 pm[Chris Harlan] ” especially when they have creative needs beyond video and often have to expand or contract the workforce based on seasonal deployment.”
The secret is Photoshop and AE. If you already use these heavily, then you’re going to upgrade. Since you get an NLE in the deal that’s sufficiently comparable to FCP 7, then why buy a different product? You’re already covered.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Oliver Peters
August 10, 2013 at 8:41 pmAn additional point is that in markets outside of NY and LA, very few true post facilities exist anymore. They are all hybrids and hyphenated companies of some type or another. This means that the focus is no longer purely editorial, so the voices that pushed for Avid (or Quantel or other) in the past have little or no say in the matter. These companies still exist in NY or LA or London or other such places, which is where you see some return to Media Composer.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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John Pale
August 11, 2013 at 1:36 amBroadcast outfits that rely on shared projects and storage will gravitate toward Avid. Nobody…not Adobe, Apple, Lightworks, Smoke…can match the level of project sharing that Avid does routinely.
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Bret Williams
August 11, 2013 at 4:11 amAs a freelance editor I haven’t looked at job postings in… Ever.
ATL has a pretty good push toward FCP X in corporate land. With the small shops, producers and independents that do the work. I don’t really hear much about Premiere. And I think Avid was run out of town 10 years ago. But most places still hanging onto legacy until they HAVE to do something.
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