Tony West
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[Andrew Kimery] “Tony asked”
Thanks for the break down Andrew
I had no idea that your market place has turned into such a circus and a race to the bottom.
This is a big union town here and for the most part we stick together.
I’m out, I have hijacked the tread enough.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “With all due respect, sir. What the f*ck is Apple supposed to build to appease that market?
“hahahaha thanks for a good laugh brother
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[Andrew Kimery] “I think that was their target demo and they were going to back-in to the high-end if they could, but if not, no big loss to them. Millions of potential users vs a few 10’s of thousands of potential users.”
Ok, first of all I consider that guy’s work high end. Second, didn’t the editor of Focus say he was in talks with Apple while he was cutting that film and they put stuff in that he wanted?
I thought I saw where he said that.
[Andrew Kimery] “You said “…if you are working on projects with cameras like that you are working on high end stuff almost by definition” and that’s not true. Go to places saturated with gear (like LA) and REDs will be used on everything from no budget short films to high-end feature films. “
Should I have said 90 percent of the market then? I can tell you that nobody in St. Louis is going out for nothing with their RED
I guess I’m in a great market to work in.
You would have to break down “no budget short film” as in, give me the day rate for the camera and op
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[Andrew Kimery] ” but at the same time people get defensive if they feel like some is slighting X by saying it wasn’t designed specifically with Hollywood productions in mind.”
Some might. I just like to keep it real. It is what it is. Their first marketing video had high end folks using high end camera set-ups in it. That’s a fact. I have always said they wanted both groups (that’s an opinion). Why wouldn’t they? They all do. I just don’t think anybody figured out how to get this close until now.
I also think they were aiming at what they see as the future of production. People running around the country side with a DSLR putting together that incredible video on a laptop shown in the tread below.
[Andrew Kimery] “Anyway, my point was LA is so saturated with RED owners/renters that they are very easy to come by.”
My point is it doesn’t matter how many people in LA rent that camera cheap .The rest of the country is not saturated with RED cameras or Alexa cameras or f55s
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[Shawn Miller] “Not sure you’ll find a ton of Red owners on a forum mostly dedicated to post”
Oh, I have seen plenty of people either write about their camera or they have it listed on their signature tag on this forum.
I just haven’t seen RED or Alexa tagged often.
[Shawn Miller] “Red operators who will come out for less than $1,000.00 a day”
That doesn’t mean that’s a cheap camera. That just means people don’t want to pay the real rate.
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[Andrew Kimery] ” if Apple was catering to the high-end when making X they would’ve sat down with people like Walter Murch and Mark Raudonis during the early stages of development “
Maybe, but they still ended having somebody make Focus without talking to either one of those people.
I know they had guys shooting with the Alexa in their very first spot on the site. That’s a top end camera.
Was then and is now.RED a cheap camera now? I would be interested to know what kind of cameras people on here own.
[Andrew Kimery] “Maybe that’s because people are unsure if Apple’s version of a pro tower jives with what they need/want out of a pro tower? “
Maybe for those people but what about people who want a Mac Pro?
Why haven’t THEY bought one yet?
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[Andrew Kimery] “-Apple being focused on the broad middle and not really interested in catering to high-end, niche sectors “
As I said when X first came out. Having a workflow that handles the top end cameras like RED and others is a niche sector itself.
Most people are not using RED across the board and if you are working on projects with cameras like that you are working on high end stuff almost by definition.
He must be talking about the niche of the niche : )
2011? Was that around the time when folks were saying that Apple wasn’t going to make a new Mac Pro?
I think that’s high end. Most people can’t afford that product. I know very few people personally that own one of those including myself. Hopefully by this summer.From the post I see I don’t think most people on here have one.
I’m more concerned with Apple keeping up the quality standards.
As much as I like X, it’s a little bit buggier than I would like it to be. Then again, I don’t have a new Mac Pro to run it on ; p
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It’s a beautiful video. Just stunning.
It’s what was said below in the last thread. He’s an artist and just wants to tell his story.
“This has nothing to do with features or technical things. There is something special about FCP X that makes it very attractive to work with. This application takes away the burden of technology, which works very inspiring. You can concentrate on your creativity and on your story and that’s what really matters.
Although I finished this video faster than the previous one, I had much more time to work on the details. I actually enjoyed myself during the edit. And people feel this when they watch your work. I guess that also explains the huge success of this video.”
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[Mathieu Ghekiere] “I’m not an editor because I love the technical nature of editing (although of course there is a big part of me that likes it a bit). I like to tell stories. I think X is more appropriate for artists then a lot of other NLE’s because of this.”
Yes
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[Andrew Kimery] “I don’t think anyone would debate which NLE is the easiest to pickup by someone that’s never touched an NLE before.”
Actually that’s been very much debated here Andrew. I’m surprised that it has but that’s the case.