Tom Sefton
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I can’t see another Mac Pro being built with a non swappable gpu, but if it can handle 8K media and the system has thunderbolt 3 so can use an egpu, I can’t see the issue.
Just observing the gpu wars at the moment, if Apple chooses one over another and it works fine with the highest quality footage available, does it really matter if you can upgrade or replace them with another from the same manufacturer in the future?
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I understand that. If the Mac Pro in 2019 is going to be upgradeable/modular, there must be a way to modify parts such as the GPU, RAM, processor, storage etc. But how many people on Mac OS have already bought an Nvidia 2080 or 1080? Which machines are they working stable inside?
Apple and Nvidia have worked together in the past, and may well again in the future. But being locked to GPUs that aren’t Nvidia isn’t really a proprietary ecosystem, it just discounts using one manufacturers products….
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It is really unfortunate if that is absolutely true, and there is no way that in the future an Nvidia card could ever be used with the Mac Pro.
However, seeing the performance on the new Radeon cards with 8K footage and grading, and their apparent matched performance to an nvidia 2080, it might beg the question – so what? If video editors can achieve the same performance with a Radeon card in a Mac, are they really bothered if an Nvidia card won’t work in the new Mac Pro? It’s a big if, and also dependent on seeing how the new drivers for R3D files work with Nvidia and AMD, but it could very well be meaningless if the new Mac Pro is hugely quick with an AMD card inside.
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Yes you absolutely can do this. Save the session as a template
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Just to be clear, red rocket and red rocket x do not give anywhere near real-time playback for 8K footage even at 24 FPS. The red rocket x card was over $6000 new, so far more than a 2080Ti.
Most post houses being delivered red footage would have external 10Ge or thunderbolt 2/3 raids for disk speed. The ability to decode 8K footage on the fly with the gpu is enormous.
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I think the key takeaway aside from actual spec is that with a HP Z4 single processor system, and a single nvidia quadro GPU, real-time playback of 8K footage is possible. Accelerated performance for lower resolutions.
On Mac OS, until we see either a new Mac Pro, or support for nvidia, it isn’t possible.
It’s a massive consideration for us due to the amount of work using Red.
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Interesting. So an iMac pro with a huge gpu in an external enclosure could be an absolute beast of a machine
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The reviews I’ve seen seem to hint that performance is split between the two by using the external for playback and internal for encoding tasks. Hopefully there will be a way of combining both but I haven’t seen evidence that works on any OS.
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Doesn’t look like it. There’s another video floating around of the dell xps vs the MacBook Pro 2018 with i9 processor. Not only does the MacBook Pro outperform nearly everywhere, fcpx and resolve are sometimes 5-6 times faster than premiere pro.
Terrible.
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