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  • My guess for the expenses are $1k for glass, $100 for housing and $10 for bayonet.
    If somebody could give factual numbers…

    One thing about changeable lenses: you always know their price, when they are sold separately.
    Fixed lens prices are part of a whole camera and therefore only guessings…

  • If Panny would make the lense changeable, but bundles it with every camera sold, it will sell as many as if it would be fixed.
    The price of lens comes from glass, not the enclosure, so for the quality-price ratio, it’s quite irrelevant if the lens has its separate or same enclosure with camera.

  • Cost is all about mass markets.
    When canon designs a new still lens it aims to sell one million of them.
    When zeiss brings a new digiprime to market it aims to sell one thousand pieces.
    So canon can press it’s r&d and product line costs to 1/1000 of what zeiss pays.

    A good still camera lens need resolving power of about 50 lp/mm.
    A good 2/3″ hd lens needs 200 lp/mm.
    Glass grindings accuracy rises the costs exponentially.

  • [Jan Crittenden Livingston] “The lenses that are going on the JVC camera are not true HD lenses. You can expect certain aberrations from them, green to one side and magenta to the other, on the extremes.”

    Jan, have you checked that page:
    https://www.eidomedia.com/hdve/ziess_fuji.htm

    It clearly shows that even a changeable cheapo sd lens is better than fixed one.
    I’m not saying that fx1’s zeiss and hvx’s leica will be identical but they will surely be in the same ballpark, but you could as well say that “the lens on hvx-200 will not be a HD lens” if you define “HD lens” to be something like “lens that is as good as those which cost $10k”.

    I’d rather say that there is no clear line between sd and hd lenses that when lens becomes “HD”.

    So I think this fear that someone would use inferior changeable lens than what these fixed are is quite hypotetic.

    I fully understand that it is impossible to put bayonet to hvx-200 for the launch 6 months away, but I think it would be a good thing for next model.
    Putting one bayonet between the lens and the camera and another socket for electronics wouldn’t cost almost anything. After that camera could be still sold with exact same lans as it is sold in hvx-200, but bayonet would give creative option for people who needs macros and supertele and so one.

    When every camera is sold with same lens either fixed of changeable, you could always say: “Why didn’t you use it’s original lens?” if these hypotetic accusations about camera’s quality comes up.

    I see only 2 problems if doing this:
    1) protecting the more expensive camera sales
    2) with two models, both model’s volumes in manufacturing lowers so much that they both would be significally more expensive

    Then little bit about “demystifying picture quality”.
    It is so often said here that Varicam or some other 2/3″ camera is sooo different than 1/3″ cameras.
    Now what is the difference actually?
    Let’s assume that both cameras have same resolution in their chips.
    Biggest difference in real life is, that you can’t find as good optics to 1/3″ as to 2/3″, but lets assume that they both have lenses that can resolve what sensors take.
    2/3″ gives you 2 stops more sensivity and 2 stops shallower DoF.
    And thats about it.

    Example of two identical shots:
    1/3″: 10mm, f2, 2m, CoC 4

  • Toke

    April 29, 2005 at 8:17 am in reply to: Homemade P2 card?

    Thanks Barry.
    So what we might get in A-version, is option to choose witch protocol to use when camera is in “live” mode…
    Or Panny keeps its lineup: cheap cameras and expensive memory and tries to make their money with p2’s.

  • Toke

    April 28, 2005 at 11:27 pm in reply to: Homemade P2 card?

    It does seem a bit weird that sbp2-transfer was so advertized and then it’s not there or it works only when camera is not recording. Maybe that’s an upgrade we get with A-model next year…

  • Toke

    April 28, 2005 at 4:48 pm in reply to: Homemade P2 card?

    In the early photos (from NAB?) there were SBP2 with big letters on the screen.
    What ever happend to that?
    Was anybody there?

    Or was it fw works in sbp2 only when record is off?

  • Toke

    April 28, 2005 at 4:28 pm in reply to: Order your Panasonic AG-HVX200 HD P2 at BH store TODAY!

    [Scott Sheppard] “You can not make P2 cards with off the shelf goodies”

    Can you also offer reason why not?

  • Heard about “Synchro-Scan Shutter” (as Panny likes to call it)?

  • Toke

    April 27, 2005 at 11:44 pm in reply to: 2.39:1 Frame Lines Would Be Great

    That’s 20 lines from top and bottom.
    When I was AC for hdcam movie for theatrical release, we used it and everybody thought it was good thing.

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