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Thank you for your reply!
I’m afraid I don’t have any suggestions for your RedRocket… except that it sounds that you have a quality problem… haha! Guess you’ll have to get a PCI expansion box…
I just found out that you don’t have to use the HDMI slots in the current cards! You can only use the main card!!! SO, my bitching an moaning was ignorance driven… my apologies… haha!
Guess it’s shopping time!!! Best price I found was $830: https://www.adorama.com/VDBMDHDE3D.html
Anyone knows where I could find a better deal?
Thanx,
T ; )~
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Thank you for your reply.
I need an SDI out to connect to my reference monitor and I need to know for sure if it will work. It’s the last piece of the equation I need to solve to make a purchase.
I’m also reading that I could run DaVinci with just one card, albeit some performance sacrifice…
It makes no sense Blackmagic does not have a clear solution for this problem! Everyone one knows Mac Pros only have 5 slots and the only graphics and umcompressed cards they officially support take 2 slots… Which with the second single slot graphic card, take up the whole 5 slots… How are you going to connect your RAID??? Looks like they don’t want it to work for the majority of us…
Yeah, I know there are PCI expansions, but they are costly and cumbersome. It just makes no sense a software at this price can’t be properly configured inside the machine it was designed for…
Seems like some older Decklink cards would do the trick. Another reason their current line-up supports what I just said… Just would like to know which single slot umcompressed card works…
Thanx!!!!
T ; )~
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The DaVinci presentation video on their product page says they support Avid control surfaces… I’m guessing they are referring to an MC Color, since Avid bought Euphonix.
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Thank you for correcting me on my “math”!-)
My point was only to help out with the original question, but also to clarify the person in question, that is about to acquire a new system, that internal hard drives are more then enough to work with DVCPRO HD in its native form, but that he should take in consideration how he might want to finish his final product.
Cheers!)
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With all due respect,
[walter biscardi] “With cards like the Kona there’s no need to go to uncompressed as you can play the DVCPRO HD timeline directly out to a D5 or HDCAM deck.”
That’s all nice and dandy, but are you going to do your color correction and SFX on DVCPRO HD? Not that you couldn’t, but you’re definitely limiting yourself and the quality of your output (specially with the noisy blacks and red chroma aberration inherent to DVCPRO HD).
[walter biscardi] “More like 230MB/s plus for that”
As far as I know 1280×720 24p 4:2:2 10bit uncompressed uses 100mb/sec and 1920×1080 24p 4:2:2 10bit uncompressed uses 130mb/sec
If you’re talking about performances recommended by vendors… I would be broke if went along with what any of them say and that has never stopped me from getting my job done at the highest possible quality.Any way the word “uncompressed” gets thrown around here a lot, but truly uncompressed HD takes up to 1GB/sec for 2K and 2GB/sec for 4K, like what you’d get out of aVIPER when David Fincher shot Zodica Killer (imagine the amount of hard drive space at the end of the shoot #”!%/$$$$!”@!).
For us in the real world, “uncompressed” means 4:2:2 10 bit, or if you’re floating on your way to the clouds 4:4:4 at 2:1 compression ratio when you’re mastering on SR (or if you have a cool producer that listens to you and lets you have some new toys for you to play with!-))The point of all this is, if you’re working with DVCPRO HD, you should pretty much look at it like you’re working on MiniDV (you’re working with native codecs. Why doesn’t Sony release their codecs, so we could work on HDCAM the same way!?!? Well at 50 mb/sec, but that’s still better then 130…).
Mini DV:
If your output specs are not demanding, you’re looking at 3.3 mb/sec all the way, but if you’re looking for a critical quality output (like if you’re going to do an HD blow up, or film out) you should capture your footage at 4:2:2 10 bit uncompressed, so you can have the codec unwrapped before you get it inside your computer, in order to get all that MiniDv has to offer and to get all the latitude you need for color correction. This should all be done in the digital world without any analog conversions, off course.DVCPRO HD:
You’re looking at 8 mb/sec (depending on the flavor of DVCPRO HD) but once again if you need to get a high quality output, like I mentioned with MiniDV, you’re looking at 100 mb/sec for 1280×720 24p 4:2:2 10 bit uncompressed.You can playback 100 mb/sec files from 4 sata drives striped together. Will you get occasional drop frames? Yes, you will! But if you have to rent a D5 deck (unless you have $100.000 burning your pocket) to output it anyway, why not go with your finished files to a post house that will do that for less then what your rental would have cost?
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You won’t even have to strip them together… I’ve played back DVCPRO HD (720 24P) from a 5400 drive on a laptop with no “hickups”… but if you want to uncompress them to 10 bit uncompressed for final output, you’ll need a RAID that can support 100MB/sec for 720 24P and 130 for 1080.
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Hi,
I don’t know if this will be helpful at all, but here it goes…
My 13 year old son has been trying to edit a skateboard movie and asked me if he could borrow my laptop… I was supportive, as any dad should be, and said: “No problem, son!”
Well his footage was shot on some cheap camera that records .asf clips (which is some weird WM format, I found out later).
To cut a long story short, he’s been editing on Final Cut Pro directly just because I installed the free version of Flip4Mac on the laptop.
I suggest you try doing the same.
Bare in mind that you’ll have to decide on what format you’ll use on your sequence settings and that you’ll have to render whenever you make an edit (unless what I’m speculating bellow makes some kind sense, cause you should be able to use it on a sequence setting, if it does!?)… but that way you’d have a timeline ready to make changes at any time .As far as outputting goes, if Flip4Mac full version could somehow be used by Compressor or Quicktime you should be able to output it!? Well, in theory at least…
I’ve never had a chance to test the full version of Flip4Mac, but since I’m able to see .asf files on Quicktime and therefore use them on Final Cut I see no reason for the WM codec not to be available for output as well (since you have the full version)!?
I’m getting in way over my head in this area but I hope this, somehow, sheds some light towards the end of your tunnel…
Good luck!-)
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I looked at the P2 logger, but I’m already over budget everywhere and was trying not to spend another $200…
Besides it still feels that the clips should be labeled on camera, not after they’ve been shot. Other wise, Panasonic claims of a “no loggin workflow” is nothinhg but a marketing miss leading hype…Thanx,
T
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Thanx for you input!-)
I would really like to test this further, but I don’t undesrtand how you write the data on the card.
Is there an application that I’m missing? Or some kind of template you write in as a text file?Thank you!
T
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Which is precisely why it’s useless in terms of organizing the clips…