[Tim Kolb]

[R. Hewitt] “If your external drive was set as the next available letter and you plug in a USB thumb drive etc, it’s not unusual for the drive to be bumped along one. It shouldn’t but XP seems to behave that way at times.

I set all my external drives starting at M.”

Good advice…I think I’ll follow that.

Drive letters…ugh. Welcome to Windows.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

[R. Hewitt] “Adobe have the creative potential to do to Premier Pro what they have done for After Effects but I think they have left it far to late to compete. Better that they get the workflow issues sorted and drop the ‘Pro’ moniker – it’s a bit dated in marketing terms.

There is still a big enough market for it in the serious amateur and corporate market sector.

I just wish they’d listen rather than pick and choose the bits they think people want.”

I suppose it all depends on your perspective. As an editor the various media management and split audio…etc, etc limitations and workarounds are a pain, but the level of integration with other Adobe products is a real enabler on the other side of the issue…

It depends on which audience you’re focusing on I suppose. I just talked to someone the other day who is looking for a dedicated MPEG compression solution because his Avid takes about 4X actual duration to compress out to MPEG. An off-the-shelf 3GHz P4 can compress at faster than real-time with Canopus ProCoder.

…as ill-suited as PPro’s editing mechanics may be for primetime television, Avid’s limited integration capabilities make many of its products a comparitive workflow hobble (for everything BUT editing) for a production boutique operation.

By the time PPro has all the capabilities to handle the assets and audio the way television editors need, I suppose Avid will have it’s own integrated compositing capability and accelerated transcoder/compressor.

(crack)….(creak)…

ssshhh…quiet…can you hear the market fragmenting?….

🙂

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

[Richard Milner] “This was posted last week a couple of places

BBC to Migrate Factual and Learning Documentary Department to 75% Final Cut Pro, 25% AVID by 2007
” target=”_blank”>https://www.nmr.com/page.php?page=1000650&set=1″

Well, of course NMR is a Final Cut reseller…though I see it was sourced from somewhere else…

I have no idea how you get that Re: line…PPro would have to “have” some of these markets to “lose” them wouldn’t they?

This article is really a story on how FCP continues to advance against Avid…PPro continues to be a bit of a non-starter for network-level television work from a list/networked workflow/media handling perspective.

I think this kind of stuff keeps coming up from those who are frustrated because they’d LIKE to use PPro for this type of work because of its actual merits, but keep hitting the wall on the deal-breaker features, or users who are using it effectively and are primarily concerned with PPro’s standing in these higher profile markets as evidence the product will continue or may not continue to exist…

Adobe would certainly like to see PPro cut some TV shows…but they sell a lot of units whether or not that happens. From a marketing perspective, I suspect Adobe’s intent is probably to keep working on PPro to get it to a level where it can be used for higher profile projects so it can get beyond this somewhat deserved but undeniably persistent impression that PPro is for someone who is a “lesser professional.”

Whether or not anyone realizes it, I think PPro has the most configuration options for HD of any software package…BlueFish444, AJA, DeckLink, CineForm Aspect HD and ProspectHD, Matrox Axio…they’ve at least got that end of things covered.

Now the little niggling workflow issues…

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

Do you plug/unplug the FW cable while the camera is on often?

There’s a thread on the HDV forum that won’t make you happy, but may explain it. It turns out that iLink and FW have some interesting relationship issues.

I know it surprised me…

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

[mctiller] “Is it possible that the Drive letter being different is also a possible part of the problem?

When I load a project into PPro 1.5 it indicates the location of the project starting with the drive letter.”

I’ve not seen a drive letter change corrupt, or at least render the project file unusable…only unlink the assets. While it’s a PITN to relink the assets, it still is a far cry from having to redo the project of course…

I still think there’s some other problem,, like trying to load a PPro 1.5.1 project into 1.5 maybe…

Hopefully patrckd will keep us updated so we see what the issue is…

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

[Peter Corbett] “I have had this once or twice. My experience is that once that project file is “corrupt” it is kaput. You will have to use an auto-save version if available. I set my autosave period to five minutes.”

He said his backups all act the same way.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

Was PPro 1.5 on your friend’s machine the same version as yours?

There has been an update to 1.5.1 that has a few changes. There may be an issue there.

Otherwise, I’ve seen times where a maladjusted PC clock/calendar on yours/your friends PC might create files with some date that according to the new machine hasn’t existed yet…that can create some interesting and varied issues.

Have you loaded the assets into a new project so you know they’re all good?

…again, I’m almost 100% positive this is something besides an Adobe issue.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

If it was file linkage, the project would open but the assets wouldn’t link.

I’m not saying that everything is perfect with PPro, but if the project won’t open, something is wrong with the project file itself, not the asset linkage.

As I asked before, has the project ever crashed…and have you attempted to open a backup?

I have a feeling the project file might be shot, but PPro save project backups. You would have to relink, but it’s way faster than re-doing the entire thing.

Try the backup route before you swap the drive again. I don’t think this is an Adobe problem.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

Has the project ever crashed?

Have you tried to load one of the backups?

It sounds like the file is just corrupt. It does happen from time to time. With all software, I might add.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

Why don’t you fill us in a little more on the procedure involved here…was the drive the C drive in the first computer? Was it the C drive in the second? Did you install PPro on the second computer? Are the project icons coming up as associated with PPro?

Have you attempted to import the projects into another project?

Fill in some blanks with your situation.

Before we blame Adobe for something weird with your hard drive changeout, I’d like to know a bit more…

(and AE and Encore don’t associate with projects in the same way, so that isn’t necessarily an indication)

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net