[Steve D]

I don’t know about distorting the voice, but most of the voice alterations I’ve heard use pitch shifting, which is one of the effects in Ppro 1.5

[Steve D]

Thanks, I did as you suggested, and it worked perfectly. I don’t understand how copying the second part of the clip, then moving it to another track makes any difference, but it sure does!

Thanks again
Steve D

[Steve D]

Oh, sorry, one more thing. I realize what I described above is basically just a freeze frame. It’s while the still pic was viewing I used a mask of the pic, and a track matte to perform an FX thing, which was just stars fading into (turnig into) the subject theough the duration of the still shot.

Steve D

[Steve D]

Hi, I shot a 2 min. clip (miniDV) of a section of a room with the camera on a tripod..no camera movement. I had the subject walk into the room at about 45 sec. into the shot and continue moving about.

I then captured with Ppro1.5…With the clip in the timeline, I scrubbed to the frame where the subject first appears, and exported frame as a still shot. I cut at this frame, and inserted the still between the two cut portions of the clip.

The shot is flawless from the first part of the clip to the still shot, but out of the still shot to the second part of the (cut) clip it jumps (upward)just a fraction of an inch, but still noticable…and looks like a little glitch.

Is this what you need?

Steve D

[Steve D]

[Ruby Gold] “do you guys feel that that’s a good audio editor (relative to what else is out there for the PC platform)?”

It’s one of the best out there, it’s used widely in Radio, Forensics, and a lot of recording studios. It used to be Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro. Adobe bought them out a couple of years ago. Audition was tweaked to work especially with PPro, and AE.

Steve D

[Steve D]

[Ruby Gold] “Thanks Steve. Is there a way to normalize all the voice clips as a group in PPro 1.5 (since that’s what I’m working in)?”

No..not that I know of..

[Ruby Gold] “Also, if clips are normalized as a group–does the normalization account for the variance in the loudness/quietness, different pitches, etc of the individual voices?”

Normalizing only deals with amplitude (volume)it has nothing to do with pitch or anything like that. A good example of group normalizing: Last week I had to normalize (among other things) 66 seperate clips that were produced for a PC tutorial for DVD. Instead of normalizing each clip seperately,which would have only made them all louder but still have the same volume variances, I chose to group normalize. When you group normalizing, you literally load all of the clips into a window then have the program analyze all of the clips to find the loudest peak, then average all of the clips to be the same percieved volume. The average high peak may come out to be -7db or something like that instead of 0db.

It’s all a lot easier than it sounds. Even though PPro has some nice audio features, you should really invest in a seperate audio editor..(Pro Tools,Adobe Audition, Nuendo etc.)You will eventually need to time stretch something or de-noise or what ever.

Digidesign has a free version of Pro Tools that you can download from their web site (8 tracks). I’m not sure of the URL.

Steve D

[Steve D]

[Ruby Gold] “if the peak is put right at 0, it should sound appropriately loud not too loud, right?”

Normalizing will put the loudest peak at 0vu and proportionately raise the rest of the levels.

[Ruby Gold] “I’m wondering then, why normalizing some of the quiet clips makes them too loud–if the peak is put right at 0”

This will happen if you are normalizing the quite clip individually, because it is adjusting it’s overall level to the loudest peak of that clip, NOT the loudest peak of the overall soundtrack. You can normalize the whole audio clip as a last step, and this would keep the dynamic range in tact, or normalize seperate clips individually, and adjust their levels as a last step.

[Ruby Gold] “And–is there no danger of a “blown-out” sound to the voices with all this gain”

No,If everything is normalized at the same time, everything will keep it’s original dynamic range. Yes, if the music is normalized, and the vox tracks are not. I hope I’m understanding your question, and not just adding more confusion..

I use Adobe Auditon for this, and it works well, you can group normalize, and remove the noise very easily.

Steve D

[Steve D]

Hey, thanks for the link. That fixed my problem. All of a sudden I was getting an “out of memory error” even though it worked fine before.

Steve D

[Steve D]

Thanks for the information, I understand what you are saying, and I agree. Does anyone know how the Adobe Traing tutes are produced? They look pretty good for screenshot to DVD.

Thanks again,
Steve D

[Steve D]

Thanks, I messed around a bit doing what you suggested, it got me real close to what I’m looking for, but I think it would probably take frame by frame painting to get believable shadows. I never realized how many variables there are in creating a shadow..thanks for the fast reply, I’ll keep experimenting.

Steve D