[Steve Connor]

[Oliver Peters] “Bill likes to poke around on the “dark web” ☺
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Ha! It would explain why these very active FCPX forums are beyond the reach of Google search 🙂

[Steve Connor]

[Bill Davis] “That saddens me because I think the quality of the discussions here is still outstanding – but as robust as the Cow site traffic surely still is, there are tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of highly participatory X users out there who will never read them -as it appears the “action” in the global X community has largely migrated elsewhere.
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Maybe, but I’m not sure how they will find these mythical forums that are “elsewhere” ☺

[Bill Davis] “Sorry, but out of respect for this forum, I’m not going to link to other places and risk shifting the Cow traffic (that DOES want to discuss X rather than other NLE approaches) there.
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That is a real risk because people can’t participate in more than one forum very easily 🙂

[Steve Connor]

[Steve Connor] “[Bill Davis] “Trying to keep stopping by here, but IBC is Rocking in Amsterdam and I’m in threads with 100s of posts debating and talking about FCP X elsewhere – and it’s comparative crickets here.
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Where are these forums that are debating FCPX? I’m a keen FCPX user who’s very interested in forums and all the forums and Facebook groups I follow are similar to the “other” FCPX forum here on the COW in that they are mostly about problem solving and how to use FCPX. I haven’t found any that have the broad range of debate related to FCPX that you get here.”

I had a spare hour so I’d thought I’d do a Google and Facebook search to try and find some of these great sounding discussions and I haven’t really found much apart from the excellent fcp.co and problem solving forums and FB groups. Now I’m sure they are happening somewhere but if they aren’t easy to find then that’s not good news for other FCPX users?

[Steve Connor]

[Jeff Kirkland] “If you want to grade a clip in the browser, then right click and choose Open Clip. Apply the correction there.”

This is an important tip for everyone!

[Steve Connor]

[Gary Rodger] “Thanks chaps; Alex, your transitions look superb, will try them shortly!”

I can thoroughly recommend Alex’s plugins in FCPX

[Steve Connor]

[Oliver Peters] “I’m not sure I understand Bill’s original post.”

Wishful thinking that a a forum that gets great Google search rankings and doesn’t only say nice things about FCPX is on it’s way out 🙂

[Steve Connor]

[Bill Davis] “Trying to keep stopping by here, but IBC is Rocking in Amsterdam and I’m in threads with 100s of posts debating and talking about FCP X elsewhere – and it’s comparative crickets here.
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Where are these forums that are debating FCPX? I’m a keen FCPX user who’s very interested in forums and all the forums and Facebook groups I follow are similar to the “other” FCPX forum here on the COW in that they are mostly about problem solving and how to use FCPX. I haven’t found any that have the broad range of debate related to FCPX that you get here.

[Bill Davis] “Maybe so much constant X hostility in the forum – and constant billboard posts featuring anything but X – has sunk into the markets consciousness and come home to roost.”

Almost every thread on here eventually references FCPX, even if it’s about Adobe, also there’s lot’s of activity on the “other” FCPX forum here, there’s no negativity there, yet I notice you don’t seem to hang around there much.

[Bill Davis] “and it’s comparative crickets here.”

Strange, I count around 300 posts in here in the last 16 days, hardly “crickets”

[Steve Connor]

[Bill Davis] “Starting in about my second year with X (so five years ago) I started realizing that I could spend more time perfecting smaller “chunks” vertically – going ahead and attaching B-Roll, Titling, futzing with audio timing, etc, etc – and since the magnetic timeline would preserve all my vertical relationship choices – and I could subsequently move those blocks around as a unit so easily since they were “relationship connected” – there was FAR less Benefit in waiting for the Primary Storyline to come together as a unit before perfecting further.

After X, if everything arrived for “Act 3” of whatever…I felt totally free to just build THAT starting at 00:00:00. Who cares? Inserting and working on Part A or B or attaching Part E later just moved all my prior vertical assemblies ahead or behind as needed.

That’s what I refer to as “thinking vertically.”

You can do similar things with all NLEs of course – but magnetism drives a TON of friction out of the process in X since you NEVER mess anything else up by inserting new content either after OR before your existing work – and all the timing relationships you take the time to build are so sticky in X.”

That explains it, thanks. For me what you’ve explained isn’t one of the benefits of FCPX as I’ve never worried about timing relationships in other NLE’s whilst making edits, but I can see how it would be a benefit to some Editors.

[Steve Connor]

[Bill Davis] “I guess I think a lot more “vertically” and earlier now than I did before X.
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That makes absolutely no sense 🙂

[Steve Connor]

Timely post Oliver, thanks. Worth posting in the FCPX forum as well?