Steve Brame
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So with MC it’s a couple of keypresses, then a click, then a mouse-click, then a bunch of keypresses instead of PPro where you press one key then drag the edit point. Sounds MUCH easier – and SMART! :>)
Suffice to say that it’s all a matter of personal preference, and simply a preference over trimming styles isn’t a solid reason for an editing platform to not be considered able to handle a feature film.
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I guess I’m too thick to understand. Having used Media Composer for years, albeit the versions prior to Avid’s attempt to compete with FCP, I always found trimming there to be a bit ‘clunky’ feeling, having to go through extra steps in order to simply ripple, whereas with PPRo I can simply hit ‘B’ and ripple away. Same with rolling edits. How is MC able to do this with less steps these days?
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I’ll be the first to bring up the 500 pound gorilla in the room. One of the reasons is misinformation. For years we PPro users have had to endure claim after claim from the ‘other side’ that unless you were editing in FCP, you weren’t a professional. And that isn’t hyperbole. We have actually had proposals declined specifically because we were told that by the potential client – because they had been told that, ostensibly by a FCP user.
Since last year’s SuperMeet we have watched the mass exodus from FCP to PPro(yes, Avid too, but this is a Premiere forum), continually hearing statements such as “I had no idea that PPro was that similar to Final Cut”.
The list of films edited with FCP that is found quite easily on the web has been shown to be, at least, a bit misleading. Some of the films listed were not fully edited with FCP, but FCP merely was used in some phase of the edit, and many times it was just as a mobile on-site platform to view scenes and roughs during a shoot. Strangely enough, you mention ‘The Social Network’ as one of those, while it is also claimed that it was edited with PPro.
Again…misinformation.
I do not work on feature films, but I do at times edit long format programs, and no one that I know of edits a 90+ minute timeline. It’s dangerous, and there is absolutely no need to do it, so the ability for editing software to work more easily on a long timeline shouldn’t be a factor in it’s consideration for use in a film.
Sorry for the rant, but I’ve been saving up for a few years…
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[Benjamin Lundin] ” I don’t see why there shouldn’t be a way to trim directly on the timeline without having to open the trim windows”
I seem to be able to trim all day directly on the timeline. I’d never even used the Trim Window til just now to see what it offered. In fact, one of the main reasons I switched from Media Composer was Premiere’s ability to trim directly on the timeline without having to go into a ‘Trim Mode’.
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[Angelo Lorenzo] “You see PPro more with single editors than teams on features/tv.”
This is apparently in flux.
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[Randall League] “I did some tests and downgrading to a SD comp and rendering it had no effect in render time, it was almost exactly the same as the HD comp.”
Probably because regardless of a comp’s resolution, it’s still pointing to the same media files, and that’s what is being transcoded.
[Randall League] ” I am trying to keep everything down to 7 DVD’s in total.”
Whew!
[Randall League] “Well , I’m going from AE to PP because I’ve never had any luck with audio (voice overs, sound effects) in AE.”
Understandable. AE isn’t very adept at audio editing.
[Randall League] “My fastest times have been for a 40 sec comp that rendered at 50 minutes.”
Wow! That doesn’t sound right, but then again, I’m using 25GB of RAM. At any rate, RAM is pretty inexpensive these days, and it certainly wouldn’t hurt to add some.
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By the time it reaches the DVD, it will be SD anyway, so the fewer steps needed to get there, the better off you’ll be. Since both AME and Encore will let you directly import an AE comp, why not go that route? No need to go through PP at all.
Question…your post makes it seem that you are trying to get the whole 20 hours onto a single DVD. Are you?
98% of all computer issues can be solved by simply pressing ‘F1’.
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Take a look at the small image to the left of the ‘Duration’ and Alignment labels. The small arrows around that image allow you to set the direction of the wipe.
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I have been using Ultra Keyer since the old days before Adobe purchased it’s creator company, Serious Magic, back then it was simply ‘Ultra’. The version integrated with Premiere lacks some of the original functionality that the original had, but I’ve been told that they are going to reintroduce it in the future if possible.
That being said, I still love it. It’s our ‘go to’ keyer these days unless we happen to really blow it when shooting the material and need to be able to create a ‘super-tight junk matte’ as explained here in a tutorial. Even then, we’ve had some green screen shots that we had a hell of a time getting keyed well in Keylight, while Ultra Key was able to handle it with ease. It has also proved to be a real time saver being able to key directly in Premiere.
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“Not sure what I am doing wrong, but only the 1st frame got correctly masked – the auto tracing did not work correctly for the rest.”
Make sure that under the ‘Time Span’ heading of the ‘Auto-trace’ dialog you select ‘Work Area’ instead of ‘Current Frame’. Also make sure that your entire length of the comp is selected as the ‘Work Area’.
Steve Brame
creative illusions Productions