[Shar Chi]

To clarify, I work in the live events arena of the corporate world and unfortunately DVD is ubiquitous down here. I won’t mention company names cos u never know who’s looking, but they are often the biggest, and are across a very broad spectrum of industries. Now, if Premiere elements can handle / transcode vobs, it’s simply ridiculous that Pro can’t (or won’t), & I don’t care how you defend Adobe or justify it. Your workflow may well vary to mine, that’s fine & life goes on.

Bottom line, if Adobe premiere ever intends to be a serious contender in major production studios, it needs to co-operate with as many formats as possible, especially the ubiquitous ones, and stop coughing up feeble excuses or workarounds. Until then Avid & FCP will remain #1.

psst OMF…

[Shar Chi]

Cool Jon, well it seems you’re fairly happy with the status quo with Premiere, and that’s fine. I’m no fan of Avid, and when I last used FCP (v5) I left the suite cursing like a pirate! (Numeric-based time stretching – wtf, no stretch tool?!)

I just know that my life would be that much easier, every day, if my main editing app could handle the most common format video in the world. DVD is an unwelcome guest that invites itself to my desk party every day, and looks set to remain that way for years to come, and I know I’m not the only one… mebbe just the only one to point out the obvious.

Thanks for the tips. I mean yes, Procoder does the conversion most of the time, I just don’t see why Adobe are so naive / arrogant with file formats (and I won’t get started on their AU pricing markups). I’ll take a look at elements, if it really handles vobs I’ll have to laugh at the irony.

And thanks Jeff, yes I resort to the composite player method from time to time when even procoder cant handle the vob. I guess my point is why should we have to endure such voodoo & chicanery in 2008?!!!

[Shar Chi]

Hi Jon, I do a range of event productions for clients ranging from small business to the largest companies in this country. I know that VOBs are a horrible format to work from, yet ask anyone outside the production office to name a video format, DVD is always the first cab off the rank. This is just a sad fact of life, today, the average joe around any given office still thinks in DVD. Look in any house at what video products are lying around, it’s DVD DVD DVD. It’s naive to pretend that DVD is not the ubiquitous video format of this era.

For Adobe not to support VOB is a huge copout, and one in a long line from the team, such as never supporting OMF, my PDX10 camera, VOB, etc. We both know the MPG file trick seldom works, although I wasnt aware that Premiere Elements supports VOB files. Why should I have to trick Premiere into supporting a file format anyway? In my mind, companies like Adobe should be making life easier for producers. I guess the kickback from MainConcept is big enough for Adobe to pretend DVD isn’t as important as it really is.

I personally film DVCAM, but every single project ends up on a DVD. Inevitably I get handed half a dozen DVDs every week to work into some event or other. This stuff comes from major advertising agents like Saatchi, TV Networks like Foxtel (they keep a lot of their sports archives on the worst encoded DVDs you’ve ever seen), as well as small back office producers. I am flabbergasted Adobe still ignores the elephant in the room. Can someone tell me does FCP support VOB import?

You can probably guess I’m exasperated by Adobe products for things that seem relatively simple and blindly obvious to address. Personally I think the head of Dev should be dropped in the sea with heavy shoes!

Now I wonder if Encore is worth using yet?! Hmmm