[Serac Adventure films]

A quick question – ran into a big problem with this about a month ago.

If you’re working with a 60p time line or a 59.94 – how do you get that to lay back on a 29.97 tape? I would change the time code base of the time line, but it would want to render everything? Thanks

-Dave

[Serac Adventure films]

Well,

we were trying to get it out to an HDCAM deck. While I had not problem getting the kona to go from 720 to 1080 – ultimately, the FCP timeline needs to be 29.97 to go out to a sony deck. unfortunately to change the timeline’s timebase, it would want to render the sequence.

so, we’ve figured out you need to run cinema tools on the raw clips before editing.

thanks to the board for all their help with several recent issues.

-dave

[Serac Adventure films]

Hi All,

We solved it – you have to run HDV to uncompressed HD 8-bit and then go to prores. If you straight from HDV to prores 422 HQ – it looks real jittery with the motion. I’m surprised no one has mentioned this previously on the forum

-david

[Serac Adventure films]

when viewing an HDCAM image that’s been prores’d – out through kona card to HD-SDI – to LCD panisonic monitor or sony BVM it looks great

when viewing an HDV image that’s been prores’d – out through kona card to HD-SDI – to LCD panisonic monitor or sony BVM the motion has this ‘trail’ to it, not smooth.

when viewing an HDV image (Native) – out through kona card to HD-SDI – to LCD panisonic monitor or sony PVM – it looks great

So when I noticed something was weird with the HDV to prores stuff, i compared frame to frame with the HDCAM.

I am viewing on a panasonic lcd monitor with an HD-SDI input
with HDCAM that’s been prores’d – when I go frame by fram i see the interlacing

with HDV that’s been prores’d – when I go fram by frame, i don’t see the horizontal interlacing lines. instead of the interlacing lines of the arm/ice axe is about to advance to in the next frame, it’s just a smooth half-frame. don’t know if this makes sense. But in the end, the HDV motion looks horrible, like it has this trail behind the object moving

[Serac Adventure films]

I just tried to put an AJA DVCPRO HD 720p59.94 – to 1080i 29.97 and it would Que the tape, but would freeze and not start – gave me a servo lock error.

have any idea why this happens?

-dave

[Serac Adventure films]

Well, so i went in to layback this morning.

with my aja kona dvcpro hd 720 59.94 sequence (wouldn’t let me make it DF in sequence settings) – told the kona to make it 1080i. Picture is no problem, but couldn’t get it to edit to tape. It would just hang a couple seconds before the edit ‘in’ point and not start. give some servo lock error. I striped the tape both DF and NDF and tried it both ways.

i tried my 1080i pro res timeline to the tape and it worked perfectly.

is there any ‘eureka’ here?

[Serac Adventure films]

and by this you mean? The total length will change or something.

[Serac Adventure films]

great – so when i go to edit to tape – even if in my final cut pro timeline if i’m at 1:10:15;59 – if my tape was coded at 29.97, my deck will be at 1:10:15;29. I’ll try it today. Thanks!

[Serac Adventure films]

Yes, the Kona will convert the 720 to 1080 – but in the final cut pro timeline, the TC goes up to ;60 frames, whereas I need it to go up to ;30 frames. Just like a 24p timeline goes up to :24 before turning over to the next second.