Scott Bellefeuille
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Yes Nicholas, you’re correct. I think that last part of my original statement regarding keywords not having the same functionality for setting in and outs was incorrect and confusing! Consider this a retraction of that part of the statement.
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Geoff,
You’re right and it works pretty well if the clip doesn’t contain the keyword in more than one range. But if for instance you have a 3 minute clip and you keyword a range “Bob” in the first minute and then again in the last minute, clicking on your “Bob” collection will show you the whole clip. If those ranges were marked as favorites also and you selected view only favorites in the event browser those two ranges would appear as two separate clips.
It’s a bit confusing since the capability does overlap a lot and I still haven’t worked out a best practice with it yet but as far as I can tell the difference I outlined above is the major difference between them.
Cheers,
Scott
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Favorites is a way to add in and out points to your clips so you can quickly get back to the same selection. For instance if you have a 3 minute clip with one minute of ‘good’ footage in the middle that you want to use you can mark that one minute range as a favorite. Then when you go back to the clip you just click on the green bar at the top of the clip that denotes the favorite range and you have the selection. If you turn on show only favorites you’ll see all your clips already trimmed basically with in and out points if you’ve made favorites. Marking favorites in a longer clip is similar to subclipping. You can also keyword those ranges if you’d like but just keywording them doesn’t give you the same functionality for subclipping or marking and retaining in and out points as easily.
Hope that makes sense.
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Thanks for the idea Richard. I had tried removing everything but the original files (they are all just pointer files to the media elsewhere.) I gave your suggestion a try but unfortunately it didn’t work. What’s odd is that it kind of worked for the first half of original files I removed. After removing the first half FCP X finally opened without getting stuck on the “Loading Compressor Support” screen, but none of the media displayed thumbnails (including media in other events that display fine when this event isn’t connected.) So I set that half aside in a folder as “good” and proceeded to pare down by halves from there. Unfortunately every time after FCP X hung on the compressor support screen. It even hung when I put just the “good” files that had worked the first time back in on their own. There’s no consistency to it so it makes troubleshooting nearly impossible.
For now I’m giving up on FCP X and will probably take advantage of the Adobe Premiere cross grade. My impression is that FCP X is truly a Beta version at this stage and not suitable for any kind of work. I had thought about using it just for family and home videos to get a feel for it over time but it’s really not worth the frustration and risk.
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I’ve definitely isolated it to the Event data file “CurrentVersion.fcpevent” If I remove that file FCP X launches fine (but with the event completely empty).
Unfortunately the event data file is the one that contains all the important information like key words, favorites, markers, etc.
Anybody working with FCP X make sure you are backing up your event info along with your project files!
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Thanks for the link to the tips page. I tried trashing the prefs, but unfortunately no luck.
I’m convinced that it is something corrupt in this specific Event.
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You can also have an Event get corrupted which is what I’m dealing with now. I had copied my project and have a backup of that but neglected to copy the Event. All of your organization, key-wording, marking of favorites, synchronization of clips, etc. etc. lives in the Event file. So definitely back up both the Event and the Project files!
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Kevin,
Thanks for the reply. I ran Cocktail which is similar to Onyx, but it didn’t help.
The last thing I was doing was editing a pretty simple sequence. Closed out the program last night with no problems and then got the issue the first time I launched it today.
It has to be some sort of corruption in some part of the event folder. I’m hoping it’s not the event data file because I’ve got a ton of work into key-wording, organizing, tagging, etc.
Scott
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There’s a few bugs and some odd behavior that I’ve run into with keywording and organizing a large documentary project I’m working on:
1) FCP X automatically creates a “Keyword Collection” in the event browser for every keyword you create. So if you have 500 keywords you will have 500 keyword collections cluttering up the event browser. Deleting a keyword collection deletes the keyword from every clip it is associated with. So you’re stuck with a lot of keyword collections you don’t necessarily need. The only solution currently is to dump them in a folder.
2) If you select multiple rows and try to apply a keyword to multiple items when in “list view” your selection reverts to one row after you have applied the first keyword so you can’t apply multiple keywords to a selection of rows without reselecting after each one. This works fine in thumbnail view but not list view.
3) Tabbing doesn’t work in data fields in List View in the event browser. Each time you tab from one field to the next to enter information, say from Scene to Shot/Take, you have to click in the field to make it active. It appears you can’t just tab from field to field entering data. Makes it nearly impossible to quickly add data such as scene, shot, take, notes to clips.
I’ll also add that responsiveness is slow with a big project (400GB of prores files on an external RAID editing on a new Macbook Pro 8 core).
My advice would be to import a small sample of your clips and try entering the data and key wording multiple items to make sure the issues I describe above won’t kill your workflow.
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A couple more bugs in keywording and organization:
1. List View in the event browser: Tabbing doesn’t work. Each time I tab from one field to the next to enter information, say from Scene to Shot/Take, I have to click in the field to make it active. It appears you can’t just tab from field to field entering data.
2. List View in the event browser: If you select multiple rows and try to apply a keyword to multiple items your selection reverts to one row after you have applied the first keyword so you can’t apply multiple keywords to a selection of rows without reselecting after each one. This works fine in thumbnail view but not list view.
3. Deleting a Keyword Collection deletes the keyword from all clips in collection. For some keywords I don’t necessarily need or want a Keyword Collection cluttering up the event browser. A collection should be separate from the keywords so it could be deleted without removing the keyword from clips. The only workaround I can find is to dump the unneeded keyword collections in a folder so they can be hidden.