[Ryan Brown]

So what’s the word? Any new panel support yet…?

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

Ok I did a speed test and it basically avg. around 130 mb/s with two samsung 1TB drives raided in RAID 0 via the Express Card ESATA. Two Velociraptors was only about 10-15 mb/s faster. The Samsung was about $250 for two drives vs. around $600. So that wasn’t enough of a speed jump to spend the extra doe.

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

Ok I just got my ESATA II adapter working. It’s some generic brand and cost me $29.99. I called to try and buy a diff. one and they said it’s now only $10 at my local Frys.

So what I ended up doing was I figured out the chipset and found some other manufactures sites drivers. I read there troubleshooting guide which led me to figure out I had the same chipset(probably any Express Card Sata II does).

So anyway it’s working now!

Report back with speed test!

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

rafael-

Thanks for the feedback!

I know what you mean about needing more power to run faster HD. In this case I’d be editing with those drives plugged in and would not worry about it. Also I believe the Raptors have a 5 year warranty when others are less(except for Seagate-but I have had about 4 bad ones in the say 40-50 I’ve bought over the last 4-5 years). Maybe that’s not bad.

Don-

I’ll have to try lower settings. I also run Premiere Pro CS4(Master Collection) so I’ll have to try it in there as well. Also it’s native in PPro. Not that it will help but with all the integration between apps. is a big reason I think I’ll cut this in PPro CS4. Also they are coming out with an update for a FCP Importer & OMF!

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

So basically your saying the drive speeds are less of an issue editing multi-streams of XDCam codec. The overall reason I won’t be able to keep up to multi-streams is the speed and amount of cores (2.6ghz and 4gb of ram, 7200 rpm internal drive in my Macbook Pro)?

I own a Mac Pro 8 core 8 GB Ram, 3870 GPU, Raid 5 Host card w/8 drives 32mb cache it speed checks at 500-600mb/s read and write.

Unfortunately I can’t really haul it around with me oversees.

What is the best a top end Macbook Pro realistically be able to handle. One, Two streams…? I’ve never tried to edit a project of this size on a laptop before but I can remember seeing adds a few years back from apple talking about editing HD on a Laptop in the field. Not sure what type of HD they were talking about. Maybe I was mistaken.

Appreciate the feedback!

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

Rafael-

Thanks for the response!

So you have two lacie big disk units correct. One unit(two drives in Raid 0) test at 80-90mb/s.

I have two Maxtor One Touch III’s each have two drives inside connected via Firewire 800 and I’ve set both units up(Total of 4 drives between two ext. units) RAID 0. It get’s about 60-70mb/s.

So one units gets 80-90mb/s. Have you tried setting up all 4 drives in RAID 0(two units married together)? Probably don’t need the speed but curious if the speed would double.

Overall it sounds like ESATA is a bit faster. With a drive spinning at 10K it might be even a bit faster. If I can find a local Express Card SATA II adapter I’ll hook up a single and maybe a two drive Raptor 10K I have laying around and report back results fyi.

Thanks again for the feedback!

btw what settings did you use in AJA speed test?

Ryan Brown
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[Ryan Brown]

I have a Sata I Raptor 10k drive laying around I want to try w/out enclosure in a SIIG protector sleeve and 3.5 Power Adapter. Unfortionately my SATA II Express card I bought doesn’t work on OSX even though it says it does. So as soon as I get a working one I’ll use AJA to test the speed with a raptor spinning at 10k instead of most using only 7200 rpm 16 or 32mb cache. If those test go well then the Velociraptor would be worth trying. I know in the past a single Raptor spinning at 10K could be as good as multiple drives in raid. Though this might have been a few years back with 8mb cache and less efficient drives…

Other external I recently say was F2 from Sonnet.

https://www.sonnettech.com/product/fusionf2.html

It’s 5400 rpm and they claim some pretty good specs from a single drive set up. Still a 2.5 inch Velociraptor spinning at 10K would have to be better. I saw one company at NAB last year that had like 16 SATA II drives in RAID and I couldn’t figure out why they’d use the little drives…maybe because the platter is smaller it can access faster.

Like the F2 maybe one can use two SATA II Velociraptors 300GB-10k rpm drives(are actually 2.5 inch drive mounted in a 3.5 inch shell/heat sink)in RAID 0 via a two port SATA II Express Card Adapter for editing…and have another lil’ 2.5 bus powered ext. drive for the main offload. I have 8gb cards so I thought about backing up each card to a DL dvd-9 disk as well.

Thanks for the input!

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

Thanks for the reply.

I thought about getting some Quad Interface External drive. That way I could download the clips via the express slot and offload w/firewire. Then once the clips are all offloaded and I’m ready to edit I could then just switch to ESATA…

I found a cool Quad box that will except a Velociraptor. This seems like the fastest single drive set up.

Here take a look and let me know what you think?!

https://oyendigital.com/hard-drives/store/EB3F-S.html

They also have Quad Bus Powered enclosures too in the smaller 2.5 drive flavor.

https://oyendigital.com/portable-combo-hard-drive.html

Ryan Brown
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[Ryan Brown]

Craig Bailey-

I can’t recall what was the fix for sure…I played around with all the settings over and over again. It just seemed like being persistent on the issue the camera settings finally stuck…check battery backup and make sure it works(I don’t think this was what fixed my issue but it’s good to have an extra on hard just in case). I’d try a simple setting change and see if it sticks. If nothing stays it would seem like a battery issue. If only certain settings don’t stick maybe there is something wrong…I called Sony and they tried to help…but I just ended up messing around with the camera and magically the settings stuck. I’m just hoping they stay. I have an extra battery in my kit as a back up just in case.

Good luck with it. Might try Canon and see if Tech Support has any suggestions. All else fails it might give you a chance to check out all the settings in the camera which was the biggest benefit of this issue for me. I went through everything when I got frustrated and kinda learned a bit-then it worked so it turned out ok. So far it hasn’t had issues since btw.

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.

[Ryan Brown]

Don-

Thanks for the workflow tips and links. Sounds like combining the clips is not a problem…I’m looking forward to trying this out…

Thanks again for all your help here.

Ryan Brown
DowntownBrownEnt.