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  • Does DaVinci Resolve for Mac require a control surface?

    Posted by Mike Schmitt on April 25, 2010 at 7:10 am

    First of all, it has been a long time since an announcement at NAB got me excited like I am about the impending release of DaVinci Resolve for Mac!
    From what I am reading, we don’t have a clear idea of the playing field as far as control surfaces go.
    There are the DaVinci boards, which are amazing and other very nice ones that are, or soon will be, available.

    My question is this: Can you work with DaVinci on a Mac without control surface?

    I want to see if I like it, first of all. I’m sure I’ll love it, but the second thing is that money is tight this year and I would love to be able to get DaVinci when it comes out and then buy the control surface when business picks up.

    Does anyone know?

    Andy Mees replied 15 years, 5 months ago 8 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Jack Jones

    April 25, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Can’t remember where I saw the quote from BMD (possibly from Walter) but the answer was a clear no.

    Minimum requirements sort of look like this so far*;
    – BMD DaVinci Software
    – Intel Mac Pro with nVidia card (GTX 285 is recommended so far)
    – Grade Controller (currently only Tangent Wave or DaVinci Panels work – Othe panels expected to be compatible)
    – BMD I/O Card (Decklink HD Extreme – Other I/O expected to be compatible)
    – Grade Monitor (Search the forums but recommended models include FSI, Cinetal, Panasonic Pro Series)
    – Waveform Monitor (Suggest BMD Ultrascope with a PC, or something like a Tektronix)

    All in all, I estimate the minimum** rig to cost in the region of £9,000. That is an absolute bargain!

    Obviously you’ll be wanting to add a fast RAID system to that, or integrate it into a fiber network, as well as maybe getting the full BMD controller, multiple graphics cards and correctly controlling the conditions of your studio. I believe ~£17k~£20k gets you something very client friendly.

    Personally? I’m looking at using two machines, one as an encoding/assisting machine and one as the main suite… Unless Apple give me some more PCIe Slots and a few USB3 holes that is!!

    *These are my speculated specifications based on the press releases and Walter Biscardi’s information he gathered when speaking to Grant Petty of BMD. Purely speculation. Please correct me on any mistakes you feel I might have made.
    **Very minimum specs for a broadcast capable suite, from the information available. Assuming ~£1k software, ~£2k Mac Pro, ~£1k controller, ~£1k I/O card, ~£3k grade monitor, ~£1k waveform monitor.

  • Darin Wooldridge

    April 25, 2010 at 9:53 am

    You might be able to run without one however I’m not sure it would be very efficient. I know many people use the lustre without one. I will try it Monday and let you know.

    The wave is only $1500 in my opion worth the price tag.

  • Illya Laney

    April 26, 2010 at 4:39 am

    I looked through the current manual a few weeks ago. The main way to manipulate the lift, gamma, and gain is through the trackballs, but I didn’t see a GUI for the “hue wheels.” Basically nothing for a mouse to grab on to. Is this correct Darin or did I just miss that part?

    If that’s correct then it seems like mouse users would be forced to use custom curves to be efficient.

    Motion Design, Color, Editing
    Simulated Wood Grain Cabinet Inc.
    (Seriously though, that’s the name on the paycheck)

  • Peter Chamberlain

    April 26, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Resolve can be operated with a mouse and keyboard (with shortcut keys) as the GUI offers more than just feedback on status it also provides click and slide functionality for most operations. Mouse or multi-touch trackpad operation is fine if you have a lot of time, for on-set or quick pre-grades on an assistant station (and on the plane flying home from NAB), however for a full grade, one of the biggest limitations to the creative flow when grading would be adjusting just one function at a time…i.e. mouse or pen operation.

    While we showed the “Wave” at NAB, we are working on a SDK for the other panel vendors so Resolve on Mac will support a number of other panels soon. Very soon.

    The DaVinci Resolve control surface, as used on Mac and Linux versions, offer 40+ live controls and another 40+ live keys so your creative influence over the images can flow rather than the start/stop/start operation with a mouse or pen. Our 25+ years of panel experience with colorist feedback refined into the layout offers an ergonomically designed panel that is fast for colorists to use on those 18 hr grading shifts and doesn’t restrict the creative process.

    Besides, the BMD Resolve panels look so cool in the suite.

    Peter

  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 26, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    [Peter Chamberlain] “While we showed the “Wave” at NAB, we are working on a SDK for the other panel vendors so Resolve on Mac will support a number of other panels soon. Very soon. “

    I think you just made a lot of people very happy with this statement!

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Darin Wooldridge

    April 26, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    Thanks Peter,

    No need to try what I hate doing. The process slows down so much when forced to look at the screen rather than just hit a button my brain is mapped to hit.

    As as a user who enjoys the current / old resolve panel set and has corrected entire features with the mouse and keyboard, the panel upgrade is a no brainer. As soon as it can be afforded I will shelf my wave and move up to the latest black magic set.

    And you are so correct in saying.

    “the BMD Resolve panels look so cool in the suite.”
    add some scopes, a touch screen router, lighting controls and it looks like a star trek episode.. The clients eat it up..

  • Ryan Brown

    September 19, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    So what’s the word? Any new panel support yet…?

    Ryan Brown
    DowntownBrownEnt.

  • Andy Mees

    November 22, 2010 at 4:49 am

    Last I heard, JL Cooper Eclipse support was in the pipeline … but MC Color, not so much.

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