Ryan
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Noah is right, you need PPro 1.5 to remove the pulldown in 24pA correctly. you can still shoot in 24p if you are just going to go to NTSC.
You can also shoot in 24p and remove the 3:2 pulldown.
Or if you have after effects 6.0 or better, you can bring all your footage into there and remove the advanced pulldown then render out as a 24 frame file, then bring it into anything lower than Ppro 1.5 and cut away, time consuming, but cheaper than upgrading.
Of course if you don’t have AE 6.0 or better…..I am all out of suggestions.
Ryan
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Thank you for validating my point.
It is acceptable to use a zoom for necessity or for effect. Thus making them acceptable…..by you.
What does your knowledge of me have to do with anything? Are you going to try and attack the fact that I have less experience than you. Because I don’t recall questioning your ability.
I respect all the advice that you and Leo have given, all I was saying is that if the man wants to use a zoom, who is anyone to tell him he can’t.
Like you said…. “We’re done here”
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I agree with you. The point I am trying to make is that if someone wants to use a zoom, and they think it is suitable for the situation, then no one should sit there and say, “You can’t do that because it is unprofessional”, or “You can do it, but no one will take you seriously.”
It is that same attitude that holds this industry back in so many ways.
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Your right, anyone who owns a camera, Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings), John Frankenheimer (Ronin), Stephen Spielberg (Jaws), George Lucas (Star Wars), Robert Rodriguez (ONce Upon a Time In Mexico), Tony Scott (Man on Fire), all directors who seem to have no problem utilizing the use of a zoom.
Again, these are examples from directors who have used a zoom in movies that are very high in profitability.
You don’t have to use a zoom, and I would rather not either, but to tell someone that it is unprofessional to use a zoom, is to say that all of these directors are unprofessional in their use of a zoom. And not to insult your ability, but I am pretty sure that they have had a lot more success in giving the audience what they want then you have.
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That would be the correct way to do it if you are not going to film. Then again if you have a lot of effects then I would shoot those shots in 24pA, so that the pulldown can more efficiently be removed and avoid the interlacing issues that may arise.
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I agree that zoom’s aren’t common place, and that other shooting techniques are better. And I am also not saying that someone should just use zooms because it is easier…. But I also don’t agree that someone should say that this and that, are and are not acceptable. Many movies in the “cinema” business use zooms to achieve a certain effect whether it be for a last resort or that is the look they want.
To say what the audience wants and does not want is very presumptous. The fellowship of the Ring and Return of the King both had zooms in them, they are two of the highest grossing films in the industry, and they have both won awards for cinematography, as well the later one Best picture.
I am not saying break all the rules of composition, but if someone likes to use a zoom, then use a zoom. Whatever it takes for someone to achieve the final product that they desire should not be toted as the wrong way, just a different way.
This argument could stem into the whole film vs HD argument where someone says that there is no way one will be taken seriously if they shoot on HD. This was one of the original arguments, and a lot of “cinema” people said that HD would never be accepted. Yet many HD movies gain audience approval with them never even knowing they were HD.
In the end you can have the most beautifully shot picture ever, but if the content is bad, then no one will want to watch it.
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Grads can be used where ever you feel they will work. Yes it will be dark at the top. Instead of a zoom track the camera left to right or pan (limit the camera to horizontal movement) and the grad will keep the effect.
Grads were used on lots of scenery shots in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and many other movies.
And not to start a thing here, but zooms are perfectly exceptable to use. Whatever you can do to achieve what looks good is acceptable.
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I would just use the camera as a deck for the time being and once you have saved up some coin by a deck.
I have the DVX100, bought the week it came out, and use it as a deck as well and have not had any issues with it.
I use the same kind of tape and never have any issues.
But like I said, if it is a concern, do some jobs to pay for it and by a deck.
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Every version after premiere 6 translates perfectly over to after effects.
Premiere pro is the most reliable though.
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After you key your footage, use auto trace, then apply stroke to the mas (layer), voila