Ron Shook
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Jan,
[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “In the 720PN modes it does not output to the 1394”
Hmmm! Does this mean that the 720PN modes won’t be recordable on the Firestore device and that you will need P2 cards to record these modes?
Ron Shook
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Jason,
[hopperHD] “I’m just stepping in to the business now and don’t want something that will be obsolete in 3 years.”
Good Luck! This business is moving so fast that everything starts to look obsolete in 2 years. This is just my opinion and a not very popular one with those who already have HDV cameras like the HVR-Z1U, but I suspect that the HVX200 is gonna decimate HDV sales by all other manufacturers (Maybe not at first, but 6 months to a year down the line). While it’s gonna be considerably more difficult and somewhat more expensive to work-flow with for everything but DV, in 2 or 3 years P2 (solid state memory) technology will start to rival tape in cost, and we’ll never look back.
Ron Shook
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Richard,
[Richard Milner] “The big issue stopping MXF is integration into applications. It’s a chicken or egg thing. You can’t use MXF cause it’s not in the application. It won’t be in the application because more people aren’t using it.”
There are two things that may break PPro and the other other Adobe apps out the chicken or egg syndrome:
1. What looks to be the phonomenal success and rapid adoption of the Panasonic P2 HVX-200 camcorder throughout the industry, which needs full MXF functionality in the apps inorder to realize it’s best workflow characteristics.
2. I’m pretty certain that Matrox is working on the this full MXF functionality for Axio, which could eventually evolve into a 3rd party app for the Video Collection sans Axio or be incorporated by partner arrangement into the Video Collection. But…this could take another year for that filtering down to take effect. I’m expecting it for Axio at NAB.
Ron Shook
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DRW,
[David Roth Weiss] “You buy white inkjet printable DVDs.”
Don’t know if you’d tried it or not, but you can also get silver inkjet printable DVDs, that are really elegant for simpler print jobs that aren’t full coverage with pics, but mostly black text and perhaps a colored logo element or two. The text and other elements look almost like they are slightly 3D on the silver background. Much more elegant than on a white background. This type of printing also is much easier on the ink and generally faster.
Ron Shook
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Richard,
[Richard Milner] “IMHO, this is the beginning of MXF-AAF becoming more important than timecode.
I wonder how long it will take Adobe to adopt MXF as a valid edit format? I hope it is part of 2.0, but I doubt it.”
I hope so too, but it’s not like everyone else is rushing to the MXF party, …unfortunately. So far only Canopus, but perhaps Adobe has decided that 2.0 is gonna be the version where they take some small leads rather than just playing catch-up to FCP and Avid. We can only hope.
Ron Shook
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Gary,
[gary adcock] “Avid can read the resident data without translation.”
Unless things have changed in the last month or so, what you are implying is not exactly true, and I got this straight from Jan. Avid cannot edit native MXF P2 files. Avid must strip the MXF from the DVCPro files of whatever stripe, move the metadata to its database, and edit on the fly from the DVCPro component of the files. This is certainly preferable to FCP’s unwraping the MXF, ingest and rewraping of the DVCPro files in QT because Avid can edit directly from the P2 cards.
Of any readily available NLE software, only Canopus Edius Pro3 Broadcast can edit directly with the native MXF P2 files, which means it can edit from the card like Avid, but, unlike Avid, the MXF metadata stays with the files and follows into the edited files rather than being set aside in the NLE database, so that any clip in the edited file contains the source metadata. Full MXF functionality is the way it should be, and the way it will probably eventually be with all NLE software, but for now the Canopus product is the only one that’ll do it.
Ron Shook
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SBM,
[edit.heaven] “Can Apple FCP support P2 MXF native or do I need to convert on import (i.e. can I edit on the P2 card)?”
I don’t know FCP but it is my understanding from talking with a very knowledgable Panasonic Rep quite recently that the only NLE currently that can edit P2 MXF natively is Canopus Edius Pro3 Broadcast. I could be wrong but I believe you have to import the MXF files into FCP and when that happens the MXF wrapper is replaced by a QT wrapper, I assume at faster than real-time. I don’t know whether the metadata that MXF can contain is all or partially lost in this process. Avid is apparently essentially similar except the MXF metadata can be sent to the Avid database pretty much intact, but at that point this metadata is separated from the DVCPro files and won’t be contained in the edit master files but in the Avid database. With true native MXF P2 support, the metadata stays with the edit and can be read from the edit master and you can always access that metadata in the edit even if the source files are no longer available. Pretty neat, eh? That’s really the future of a a full IT workflow.
Ron Shook
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Harry,
[Harry] “I’m sure HDV is garbage, as you clearly pointed out on Saturday.”
Zing! Very drole. Although I doubt very much that Jan used the “garbage” word. (g)
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Barry,
[Barry Green] “use a DLT or SAIT or LTO data tape drive.”
Nice logical post. The Quantum MXF capability sounds great, but probably not a lotta folks are gonna spend $10k to back up the files of a $6k camera. I’m gonna try and mine your mind rather than doing my own research for the time being and ask you about the relative merits and demerits of the 3 data tape formats above and the approximate cost of comparable units and their media. No problem, if it’s too much hassle, but a fella can only try. (g)
Ron Shook
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Aanarav,
[Aanarav Sareen] “Hmm….SP2 makes me wonder if that is the problem.”
Reading this thread, something range a bell, the bell may be entirely off key, but I thought it might be worth it to toss it out, if someone else has better remembrance. Isn’t there something about SP2 not having the necessary components for firewire implementation if the SP2 comes from a download rather than a microsoft CD? You can request an SP2 disk be sent to you free of charge from Microsoft.
Ron Shook