Premiere Pro on a laptop?

[Aanarav Sareen]

I am a laptop editor and I have never had a problem capturing from any DV deck or camera. Can you provide more details about the deck that you are tying to capture from?

Thanks,

Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro
https://www.asvideoproductions.com/video

[Benemm]

Hi Aanarav,

I’ve just bought an HP Pavilion zd8290EA laptop which has a 1394 firewire port built-in. I’ve also got a LaCie Firewire 800 (which as a Firewire 400 port on it) but same results. I’ve tried different cables too. My DV Camcorder is a Panasonic NV-MX300A, which has worked well so far.

Software-wise i’m running Win XP with SP2 and I’ve got Premiere Pro 1.5.1 installed.

I can see the footage using Movie Maker but I can’t see the footage or control the camera using Premiere Pro.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Ben

[Aanarav Sareen]

Hmm….SP2 makes me wonder if that is the problem. A while ago, there were quite a few posts regarding this. But, I am not sure.

Anyway, can you uninstall PPRO from your system, reinstall it and see what happens?

Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro
https://www.asvideoproductions.com/video

[Benemm]

Hi Aanarav,

I’ve tried Premiere 6.5, Premiere Pro 1.0 & I’ve recently purchased Premiere Pro 1.5 just in case it was a software issue. The behaviour was the same regardless of version and I’ve tried installing & uninstalling as well.

I’ve also tried the Microsoft post-SP2 patches to see if they may affect this.

I’m not sure why Movie Maker can see the stream and Premiere Pro can’t…?

Cheers,
Ben

[Tim Kolb]

I wonder if there is some obscure incompatibility with only that camera? Do you have any friends with PPro on a desktop system that you could ask to try to duplicate your problem? Or friends with other camcorders that you could try on your system? Or both?

It sounds as if you’ve tried a lot of options, but one important thing to note is that PPro will not see a FW device that was connected and/or powered “on” AFTER it is launched. The FW device needs to be present and powered up when you launch PPro as PPro only looks for devices when it opens.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Benemm]

Hi Tim,

Yep, I need to find another PPro system nearby (shoreditch, london) and take my camera along.. I’m currently organising with a friend to take my laptop to their camera and check if that works..

In the meantime, the bit that’s confusing me is that I can see the footage in Movie Maker but not in Premiere. I thought maybe there might be some XP Service Pack 2 or hotfix or driver or plug-in issue that made Premiere unable to stream in the footage being played on my camcorder.

I’ll update this thread as soon as i’ve tested another hardware combination.

Thanks for your post.

Cheers,
Ben

[Blast]

I too run a lap. It runs my second monitor and my aux TV through a pinnnacle moviebox.
I can capture through the built-in fire-wire port, or through an auxillary DVD burner that I can daisy-chain through the burner which in turn goes through the DV movie box.
I have tried with my PCIMIA fire-wire/USB 2 card which I have my video storage drive on and it works fine as well.
My lap specs are below but my camera is a Sony DCR-PC9. Running XP PRO pack 2 with PPRO 1-5.1

ProStar 5614 Laptop
P4 Northwood 3.2 800FSB.
1 gig 3200 DDR SDRAM
2 7200 rpm,60 gig HDD
1 250 Diamond Max HDD
Teac -R-RW burner
Sony DRU-510A -R/ R burner
ATI 9600 MPRO 128 meg.
17″ AUX. monitor
13″ NTSC monitor
DV break-out
Bella keyboard

[Demonguile]

just to let you know, premiere pro is not recommended for laptop use.(yes i know what it says on the box for hardware specs)
more than likely what you are experiencing is a bandwith issue. Laptops have limitiations that can cause problems in premiere during capturing and playback, on laptops usb and firewire share bandwith (i’m not saying that your laptop is inadequeate). This is a hardware limitation that premiere is not able to work around(blame your shared system bus and memory and limited bandwith)
you can try to either to
1. disconnect other devices firewire,USB,printers, & scanners etc…from your laptop
2. uninstall and reinstall premiere.
3. install premiere on a desktop machine and try to capture and see if you can use device control(if you are able to use device control on the desktop with no porblems, then the issue is narrowed down to your laptop)
4. update to the latest drivers for you firewire port
5. look for 3rd party dv codecs on the system and remove them.(pinnacle dv codecs, sony dv codecs, and/or streaming audio codecs)
6. uninstall the firwire card from the device manager, and then delete the registry keys in the registry, reboot (don’t worry windows will reinstall the drivers and create new entries in the registry for the hardware) and then retry to capture and check your results.

firewire through pcimia cards does not always work(ever or rarely, some people have no problems though)

Now saying all of that, there are some people who have highend laptops that have no problems. so it could be a number of things, these are simply suggestions that you could try, or further investigate yourself

[Demonguile]

and 1 more thing.
just because it worked in premiere 6.0 or 6.5
does not mean the same for PPro 1.0/1.5
Ppro has larger system requirments and demand more from your system than premiere 6.0/6.5 would have

[Aanarav Sareen]

[Demonguile] “Laptops have limitiations that can cause problems in premiere during capturing and playback”

I will have to disagree. Premiere Pro and many other editing applications quite well. Some of us on the board, my self included use a laptop extensively for editing. Infact, it is my primary editing machine, since I travel quite a bit. Also, most newer laptops, especially those built with the newer PM chips and the P4 chips are as good as desktops (except the dual-cores)

Aanarav Sareen
Adobe Certified Expert, Premiere Pro
https://www.asvideoproductions.com/video