Ron Lindeboom
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COW Coins
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[David Roth Weiss] “Any other response has nothing but a 100% chance of being wrong and will surely undermine any possibility of a happy evening. BTW, this has been scientifically tested all over the world, and found to be fact in all places and in all cultures.”
A proven COW Leader.
Now where is that danged PayPal tip jar?
😉
Ron
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[Vince Becquiot] “At Ron’s house maybe?”
Only if Nick Griffin flies out and handles the wine flight built around local wines from our area.
This, as Kathlyn and I function as the Self Appointed Volunteer Ambassadors of the Paso Robles Winery Association — a duty that we take with great seriousness and sobriety. Wait, scratch that last part.
I know that Cowdog prefers his beer, but David Roth Weiss says that Augie is a “wine mutt” so I am sure he’ll want to bring him along for the flight.
Maybe we can change this whole PayPal thing to the “Bribe Nick” fund to get him out here again.
Ron Lindeboom
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[grinner hester] “I explain that dresses don’t make chicks look fat… fat does.”
That reminds me of the one where a guy I once heard, said: Guns don’t kill people, I do.
But my favorite twisted humor of all time is my oft-used and never goes out of fashion…”If you build a man a fire, he’ll be warm for a night. But if you set him on fire, he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.”
Ew, but I love your Paean to Bravery, Grinner.
Ron
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[Mark Raudonis] “…there’s plenty of “heads” up there that I’ve never, ever heard from. What are they doing up there anyway?”
Plenty? Does one now count as plenty?
😉
We are getting ready to make another shuffle of the deck, to answer your question.
And like you, Mark, I really would prefer that people tip people privately. If the people who help want to add a PayPal link on their site, that would be great, but I would really be uncomfortable with that kind of thing here at the COW.
Even back in the beginning when we were genuinely struggling and broke as a stick in the hands of King Kong, we didn’t feel comfortable with this kind of thing.
Best regards,
Ron Lindeboom
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It’s happened, Ben. I am almost always controlled but I wouldn’t say that I am warm and bubbly at 3am.
;o)
But now that the offices are separated from our home, it helps a lot.
Best,
Ron Lindeboom
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[Steve Kownacki] “Repeat your name, company and phone number at the end of your message.”
Wonderful advice, Steve. I hate it when people give you the name and number at the beginning of the message — and by the time you get a pen and paper, the message is over — but they do not say it again.
Ron
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There is a reason that we do not publish our leader’s email or phone numbers.
Far too many people think that our volunteers are just a phonecall away and we get phonecalls at all hours of the day and night from a worldwide audience.
So, we do not give out that information.
You may find Doug by posting to the following page at EventDV.net as he writes for their magazine.
Their contact page is at https://www.eventdv.net/Comments/EDVAdvice.aspx
You might try asking there. I am sure they will not give you his contact information but if you ask the question on that form I gave you the link to, they will likely ask him to answer at his convenience.
Best,
Ron Lindeboom
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[Bob Cole] “I’d be cautious about this. It’s great for people in a position of strength or economic security, who feel they can afford to lose a particular client. It may even be good advice for people in a more tenuous position. As Ron related, sometimes standing up to a client is the best way to keep them, and on good terms.”
I couldn’t agree more, Bob.
One thing you have to remember when using a take-away close, is that you HAVE to be willing to lose the client — and never go back and bother them again.
If after you use a close like this and lose, and you try to go back and with hat in hand try to woo them again, you will have absolutely no credibility nor power whatsoever.
But to illustrate things even clearer, Bob: I have used this technique when I have had very few accounts and the gamble would have hurt something horrible if I had lost.
But…
The reality was that keeping the client when they had absolutely all control would have also hurt our business.
The sad part is that some people keep working with what I call Toxic Clients even when it is counter-productive and isn’t even profitable.
I have to be honest, when you don’t expect and demand respect (by being sure to give it to those clients just as liberally), you won’t get it in many cases. I have companies that I work with today who would have walked all over me had I refused to let them. And as I said, I did this when I had almost no accounts to speak of.
You will build the kind of company that you want and it starts with the first clients in, not with the excess that you have.
Lastly, I am NOT saying that you walk every client that is a pain in the patootey or who cops an attitude with you. Life happens and you have to get used to it. If you are waiting for fair, it ain’t likely to happen anytime soon.
What I am talking about are the ones who make it their life’s work to keep you from making a profit while they disrespect most all that you do.
Some can be saved, and in my experience most of them can. But the ones that don’t receive the wake-up call of a take-away close, are well worth losing…
…even when money’s tight.
And I have been broke many a time, believe you me.
Ron Lindeboom
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Timothy,
Do you have access to a recording studio there? One of the projects I am working on needs a drummer of higher technical ability than yours truly, and so I would like to talk to you about it. I think you will like the project.
Give me a call at 805.239.5645 when you have a minute.
Ron
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[Sam Lesante Jr.] “I did not know i was allowed to post commercials. I thought it was just for people who wanted to show off their reels.”
No, Sam, we allow pretty much most kinds of clips: reels, commercials, instructional videos, music videos, shorts, trailers, etc.
We don’t allow porn, as Bessie says that if anyone is going to show their udders around here, it will be her — but since she’s shy, that won’t be happening.
Ron Lindeboom