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Ron Lindeboom
June 12, 2006 at 3:14 pm in reply to: COW Tutorials: After Effects Creating a Flock of Birds – Part 1He somehow added an extra number to the link address and so it didn’t work. I just removed the extra digit and it works now if you wish to retry the link.
Best regards,
Ron Lindeboom
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[Visionary Films] “lmao, i see the point! also its easy for me to read though, your making a big fuss over nothing, didn’t realize people were so sensitive!”
When people don’t listen, I don’t call that “nothing.” When Justin told you that using ALL CAPS was not necessary here at the Cow, you basically blew him off and so I stepped in. (I’d have rather kept on sipping my coffee.) When people listen, they get courtesy — when they don’t listen, then they get a more direct and rather caffeinated approach. ;o)
Lastly, the Cow’s search engine is VERY powerful and here’s 119 previous posts that contain the word “quake” — many of them are earthquake posts and the like…
Keywords searched for: quake
Number of forums searched: 1 – After Effects
Number of forums where results were found: 1 – After Effects
Total number of results: 119
Time frame searched: All Active Posts, Archives: Apr 2001 – Mar 2005Results from Adobe After Effects: 119 Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:51:30
Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:48:18
Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:44:52
Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:43:27
Re: Earthquake Effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:40:20
Re: Earthquake Effect by yikesmikes on 2006-06-05 17:10:18
Re: Maybe it helps you by mark harvey on 2006-06-05 14:21:42
Re: Earthquake effect by Cletus on 2006-06-05 11:41:04
Re: Earthquake effect by Ron Lindeboom on 2006-06-05 10:47:20
Re: Earthquake effect by mark harvey on 2006-06-05 10:40:10
Re: Earthquake effect by Ron Lindeboom on 2006-06-05 09:25:03
Re: Earthquake Effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 05:17:14
Re: Earthquake Effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 05:11:44
Re: Earthquake Effect by Jonathan Miller on 2006-06-05 04:33:03
Re: Earthquake effect by Justin Productions on 2006-06-05 04:30:28
Re: Earthquake effect by Vince Beck on 2006-06-05 04:21:44
Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 03:52:59
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by visionary films on 2006-06-05 03:50:18
Re: Shake the screen Tutorial by yikesmikes on 2006-05-19 17:33:04
How to add effect to part of a clip. by jack halsey on 2006-04-25 17:18:04
Free C4D goodies by Chris Smith on 2006-04-24 18:45:44
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by Scott Frizzle on 2006-04-07 17:21:07
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by the_harryjf on 2006-04-06 21:18:59
Re: How do I install new FFX files in After Effects Pro 6.5? by yikesmikes on 2006-04-06 21:09:43
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by yikesmikes on 2006-04-06 21:09:03
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by RobotHero on 2006-04-06 21:04:33
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by yikesmikes on 2006-04-06 21:01:53
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by tommmm on 2006-04-06 20:34:49
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by Arie Stavchansky on 2006-04-06 20:27:33
How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by Tommmm on 2006-04-06 20:19:14
Re: Make whole composition shake at certian point? by yikesmikes on 2006-01-14 19:36:28
Re: Make whole composition shake at certian point? by yikesmikes on 2006-01-14 19:29:09
Re: Adding Camera Effects In After Effects – Shake, Pan? by yikesmikes on 2005-12-15 18:10:48
Re: Delirium Camera Shake Key ?? by yikesmikes on 2005-11-13 21:50:56
Re: how do I make good camera shake by Filip Vandueren on 2005-09-15 05:38:50
Re: Expression for camera shake by yikesmikes on 2005-07-27 06:21:44
Beliveable dust? by r303 on 2005-05-14 01:21:05
Re: Film shake by paulinca on 2005-03-08 19:35:24
Re: Simple position expression question by yikesmikes on 2005-02-11 16:38:26
Simple position expression question by Marc on 2005-02-11 12:25:14
Re: simulating a camera jolt by Brett on 2005-01-24 14:45:47
Re: Looking for an earthquake plugin? by epp on 2005-01-08 21:21:06
Re: Looking for an earthquake plugin? by paulinca on 2005-01-08 21:13:17
Looking for an earthquake plugin? by epp on 2005-01-08 20:52:47
Re: MUSIC VIDEO: Shakes: by Scott Whitehead on 2005-01-01 23:59:38
Re: MUSIC VIDEO: Shakes: by paulinca on 2005-01-01 23:06:47
Re: MUSIC VIDEO: Shakes: by Chris Smith on 2005-01-01 16:36:07
Re: critique demo if you will by Steve Roberts on 2004-11-11 06:24:22
Goodies sites by Vogel09 on 2004-10-13 12:40:28
Re: do you remember? by Laszlo Kovacs on 2004-10-13 07:09:46
Re: do you remember? by yikesmikes on 2004-10-13 00:37:55
Re: Quaker Question by Steve Roberts on 2004-09-03 21:42:16
Re: Quaker Question by Doug on 2004-09-03 20:58:06
Re: Quaker Question by Steve Roberts on 2004-09-03 18:09:51
Quaker Question by Doug on 2004-09-03 17:30:29
Re: Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by AViPro on 2004-08-11 18:35:15
Re: Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by dankelly on 2004-08-11 17:48:53
Re: Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by Scott Frizzle on 2004-08-11 17:37:51
Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by AViPro on 2004-08-11 17:20:20
Re: Scott Frizzle-Quaker Effect by Andrew Yoole on 2004-07-21 05:30:38
Scott Frizzle-Quaker Effect by Brian on 2004-07-20 22:31:01
Re: Free stuff for AE folks by Scott Frizzle on 2004-07-19 19:35:42
Re: Free stuff for AE folks by Leor Brenman on 2004-07-19 19:28:59
Re: earthquake by marc on 2004-06-27 22:55:36
Re: earthquake by jared on 2004-06-27 19:04:25
Re: earthquake by Ryan on 2004-06-27 17:44:15
Re: earthquake by marc on 2004-06-26 01:21:25
Re: earthquake by marc on 2004-06-26 01:20:28
Re: earthquake by Adam on 2004-06-25 22:57:49
Re: earthquake by Jared on 2004-06-25 21:48:58
earthquake by marc on 2004-06-25 21:38:26
Re: can I use wiggler to… by Jay Blanchard on 2004-05-05 20:57:26
can I use wiggler to… by FLC on 2004-05-04 05:26:49
Re: What effect is this? by scrambled2 on 2004-02-01 07:06:51
Re: What effect is this? by Steve Roberts on 2004-02-01 04:33:29
What effect is this? by JPerry on 2004-02-01 04:11:38
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2004-01-01 21:55:12
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Don Jaksa on 2004-01-01 21:45:40
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2004-01-01 20:47:45
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2004-01-01 20:43:54
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by bogiesan on 2004-01-01 17:49:28
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Patrick on 2004-01-01 15:39:50
Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2003-12-31 22:55:38
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Mark on 2003-12-30 01:56:16
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Aaron Fisher on 2003-12-29 15:24:34
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Mark on 2003-12-28 20:08:30
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by pixel – Roland Kahlenberg on 2003-12-28 08:58:40
Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Mark on 2003-12-27 21:56:24
Re: Camera like shake blur by Aaron Fisher on 2003-12-26 06:29:38
Re: Kathlyn, Ron by Mark Simpson on 2003-12-23 06:29:41
6.5 Earthquake centered 11 mi NE of Cambria, CA by Kathlyn Lindeboom on 2003-12-22 23:49:30
Re: Kathlyn, Ron by Tony! on 2003-12-22 22:06:05
Re: Kathlyn, Ron by Ron Lindeboom on 2003-12-22 20:46:22
Suggestions for this animation idea? by Chris Austin on 2003-10-13 23:45:08
Seismograph type imagery? by Scott Friedman on 2003-09-26 07:04:02
Re: How to create earthquake “epicenter” rings…. by Colin James on 2003-08-27 18:07:17
How to create earthquake “epicenter” rings…. by Chris Austin on 2003-08-27 17:51:56
Re: Creating a “shaking” camera look by Jason White on 2003-06-23 20:11:41
Creating a “shaking” camera look by Tim Tsuruda on 2003-06-21 22:32:06
Glad to see the Cows have come back to pasture… by Tom on 2003-06-06 20:32:12
Re: How to add camera shake??? by Rick Gerard on 2003-05-24 04:38:59
Re: SLOW RENDER (PLUGINS) AE 5.5.1 IN OS10.2.6 forgot something… by -stev=o on 2003-05-14 18:14:09
SLOW RENDER (PLUGINS) AE 5.5.1 IN OS10.2.6 forgot something… by eroice on 2003-05-14 14:44:30
SLOW RENDER (PLUGINS) AE 5.5.1 IN OS10.2.6 by eroice on 2003-05-14 14:34:08
Re: How can I do this? by Mythprod on 2003-04-19 16:03:29
Re: tunnel creation? by Martti Ekstrand on 2003-03-06 15:34:38
Re: camera shake filters/plug-ins? by yetix on 2003-02-14 16:57:56
Re: Kaboom!!! – explosions and stuff by yetix on 2002-11-12 20:12:47
Re: Creating dynamic titles… by david schafermeyer on 2002-09-13 20:02:49
Re: shake cam by yetix on 2002-07-22 14:41:06
Re: Shake effect by Ryan on 2002-02-26 01:11:46
Re: Shake effect by Ryan on 2002-02-26 01:11:41 -
[Visionary Films] “lmao, i see the point! also its easy for me to read though, your making a big fuss over nothing, didn’t realize people were so sensitive!”
When people don’t listen, I don’t call that “nothing.” When Justin told you that using ALL CAPS was not necessary here at the Cow, you basically blew him off and so I stepped in. (I’d have rather kept on sipping my coffee.) When people listen, they get courtesy — when they don’t listen, then they get a more direct and rather caffeinated approach. ;o)
Lastly, the Cow’s search engine is VERY powerful and here’s 119 previous posts that contain the word “quake” — many of them are earthquake posts and the like…
Keywords searched for: quake
Number of forums searched: 1 – After Effects
Number of forums where results were found: 1 – After Effects
Total number of results: 119
Time frame searched: All Active Posts, Archives: Apr 2001 – Mar 2005Results from Adobe After Effects: 119 Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:51:30
Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:48:18
Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:44:52
Re: Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:43:27
Re: Earthquake Effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 17:40:20
Re: Earthquake Effect by yikesmikes on 2006-06-05 17:10:18
Re: Maybe it helps you by mark harvey on 2006-06-05 14:21:42
Re: Earthquake effect by Cletus on 2006-06-05 11:41:04
Re: Earthquake effect by Ron Lindeboom on 2006-06-05 10:47:20
Re: Earthquake effect by mark harvey on 2006-06-05 10:40:10
Re: Earthquake effect by Ron Lindeboom on 2006-06-05 09:25:03
Re: Earthquake Effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 05:17:14
Re: Earthquake Effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 05:11:44
Re: Earthquake Effect by Jonathan Miller on 2006-06-05 04:33:03
Re: Earthquake effect by Justin Productions on 2006-06-05 04:30:28
Re: Earthquake effect by Vince Beck on 2006-06-05 04:21:44
Earthquake effect by Visionary Films on 2006-06-05 03:52:59
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by visionary films on 2006-06-05 03:50:18
Re: Shake the screen Tutorial by yikesmikes on 2006-05-19 17:33:04
How to add effect to part of a clip. by jack halsey on 2006-04-25 17:18:04
Free C4D goodies by Chris Smith on 2006-04-24 18:45:44
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by Scott Frizzle on 2006-04-07 17:21:07
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by the_harryjf on 2006-04-06 21:18:59
Re: How do I install new FFX files in After Effects Pro 6.5? by yikesmikes on 2006-04-06 21:09:43
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by yikesmikes on 2006-04-06 21:09:03
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by RobotHero on 2006-04-06 21:04:33
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by yikesmikes on 2006-04-06 21:01:53
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by tommmm on 2006-04-06 20:34:49
Re: How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by Arie Stavchansky on 2006-04-06 20:27:33
How do I create a simulated “camera shake” effect (like an earthquake) in AE6.5? by Tommmm on 2006-04-06 20:19:14
Re: Make whole composition shake at certian point? by yikesmikes on 2006-01-14 19:36:28
Re: Make whole composition shake at certian point? by yikesmikes on 2006-01-14 19:29:09
Re: Adding Camera Effects In After Effects – Shake, Pan? by yikesmikes on 2005-12-15 18:10:48
Re: Delirium Camera Shake Key ?? by yikesmikes on 2005-11-13 21:50:56
Re: how do I make good camera shake by Filip Vandueren on 2005-09-15 05:38:50
Re: Expression for camera shake by yikesmikes on 2005-07-27 06:21:44
Beliveable dust? by r303 on 2005-05-14 01:21:05
Re: Film shake by paulinca on 2005-03-08 19:35:24
Re: Simple position expression question by yikesmikes on 2005-02-11 16:38:26
Simple position expression question by Marc on 2005-02-11 12:25:14
Re: simulating a camera jolt by Brett on 2005-01-24 14:45:47
Re: Looking for an earthquake plugin? by epp on 2005-01-08 21:21:06
Re: Looking for an earthquake plugin? by paulinca on 2005-01-08 21:13:17
Looking for an earthquake plugin? by epp on 2005-01-08 20:52:47
Re: MUSIC VIDEO: Shakes: by Scott Whitehead on 2005-01-01 23:59:38
Re: MUSIC VIDEO: Shakes: by paulinca on 2005-01-01 23:06:47
Re: MUSIC VIDEO: Shakes: by Chris Smith on 2005-01-01 16:36:07
Re: critique demo if you will by Steve Roberts on 2004-11-11 06:24:22
Goodies sites by Vogel09 on 2004-10-13 12:40:28
Re: do you remember? by Laszlo Kovacs on 2004-10-13 07:09:46
Re: do you remember? by yikesmikes on 2004-10-13 00:37:55
Re: Quaker Question by Steve Roberts on 2004-09-03 21:42:16
Re: Quaker Question by Doug on 2004-09-03 20:58:06
Re: Quaker Question by Steve Roberts on 2004-09-03 18:09:51
Quaker Question by Doug on 2004-09-03 17:30:29
Re: Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by AViPro on 2004-08-11 18:35:15
Re: Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by dankelly on 2004-08-11 17:48:53
Re: Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by Scott Frizzle on 2004-08-11 17:37:51
Earthquake, Kind of, I’ve searched by AViPro on 2004-08-11 17:20:20
Re: Scott Frizzle-Quaker Effect by Andrew Yoole on 2004-07-21 05:30:38
Scott Frizzle-Quaker Effect by Brian on 2004-07-20 22:31:01
Re: Free stuff for AE folks by Scott Frizzle on 2004-07-19 19:35:42
Re: Free stuff for AE folks by Leor Brenman on 2004-07-19 19:28:59
Re: earthquake by marc on 2004-06-27 22:55:36
Re: earthquake by jared on 2004-06-27 19:04:25
Re: earthquake by Ryan on 2004-06-27 17:44:15
Re: earthquake by marc on 2004-06-26 01:21:25
Re: earthquake by marc on 2004-06-26 01:20:28
Re: earthquake by Adam on 2004-06-25 22:57:49
Re: earthquake by Jared on 2004-06-25 21:48:58
earthquake by marc on 2004-06-25 21:38:26
Re: can I use wiggler to… by Jay Blanchard on 2004-05-05 20:57:26
can I use wiggler to… by FLC on 2004-05-04 05:26:49
Re: What effect is this? by scrambled2 on 2004-02-01 07:06:51
Re: What effect is this? by Steve Roberts on 2004-02-01 04:33:29
What effect is this? by JPerry on 2004-02-01 04:11:38
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2004-01-01 21:55:12
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Don Jaksa on 2004-01-01 21:45:40
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2004-01-01 20:47:45
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2004-01-01 20:43:54
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by bogiesan on 2004-01-01 17:49:28
Re: Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Patrick on 2004-01-01 15:39:50
Need to shake footage to simulate an earthquake, wiggle not working by Mark on 2003-12-31 22:55:38
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Mark on 2003-12-30 01:56:16
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Aaron Fisher on 2003-12-29 15:24:34
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Mark on 2003-12-28 20:08:30
Re: Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by pixel – Roland Kahlenberg on 2003-12-28 08:58:40
Make an earthquake start slow and get more intence? by Mark on 2003-12-27 21:56:24
Re: Camera like shake blur by Aaron Fisher on 2003-12-26 06:29:38
Re: Kathlyn, Ron by Mark Simpson on 2003-12-23 06:29:41
6.5 Earthquake centered 11 mi NE of Cambria, CA by Kathlyn Lindeboom on 2003-12-22 23:49:30
Re: Kathlyn, Ron by Tony! on 2003-12-22 22:06:05
Re: Kathlyn, Ron by Ron Lindeboom on 2003-12-22 20:46:22
Suggestions for this animation idea? by Chris Austin on 2003-10-13 23:45:08
Seismograph type imagery? by Scott Friedman on 2003-09-26 07:04:02
Re: How to create earthquake “epicenter” rings…. by Colin James on 2003-08-27 18:07:17
How to create earthquake “epicenter” rings…. by Chris Austin on 2003-08-27 17:51:56
Re: Creating a “shaking” camera look by Jason White on 2003-06-23 20:11:41
Creating a “shaking” camera look by Tim Tsuruda on 2003-06-21 22:32:06
Glad to see the Cows have come back to pasture… by Tom on 2003-06-06 20:32:12
Re: How to add camera shake??? by Rick Gerard on 2003-05-24 04:38:59
Re: SLOW RENDER (PLUGINS) AE 5.5.1 IN OS10.2.6 forgot something… by -stev=o on 2003-05-14 18:14:09
SLOW RENDER (PLUGINS) AE 5.5.1 IN OS10.2.6 forgot something… by eroice on 2003-05-14 14:44:30
SLOW RENDER (PLUGINS) AE 5.5.1 IN OS10.2.6 by eroice on 2003-05-14 14:34:08
Re: How can I do this? by Mythprod on 2003-04-19 16:03:29
Re: tunnel creation? by Martti Ekstrand on 2003-03-06 15:34:38
Re: camera shake filters/plug-ins? by yetix on 2003-02-14 16:57:56
Re: Kaboom!!! – explosions and stuff by yetix on 2002-11-12 20:12:47
Re: Creating dynamic titles… by david schafermeyer on 2002-09-13 20:02:49
Re: shake cam by yetix on 2002-07-22 14:41:06
Re: Shake effect by Ryan on 2002-02-26 01:11:46
Re: Shake effect by Ryan on 2002-02-26 01:11:41 -
Ron Lindeboom
June 5, 2006 at 10:50 am in reply to: Perhaps some note to AE users…pioneer in effects passesThanks for the heads-up on this, Ken. I had to pop by the CNN site and read the story. I appreciate you taking the time to post this.
Ron Lindeboom
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No, I am not yelling, Mark, I am simply pre-caffeinated. ;o)
Have a great and productive day there in Montreal, Mark.
I had to get up at 3am and start my day as I am back working on the next issue of Creative Cow Magazine. It’s no rest for the wicked…
:o)
Boomer
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No, I am not yelling, Mark, I am simply pre-caffeinated. ;o)
Have a great and productive day there in Montreal, Mark.
I had to get up at 3am and start my day as I am back working on the next issue of Creative Cow Magazine. It’s no rest for the wicked…
:o)
Boomer
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[Visionary Films] “besides i have a hard time reading small print half the time and big the letters help me to see the screen, so like anywayz!!!”
USING ALL CAPS IS CALLED “SHOUTING” IN INTERNET PARLANCE. WE DO NOT WANT IT USED IN OUR SUBJECT LINES, AS IT MAKES THE FORUMS LOOK LIKE CRAP WHEN IT’S DONE.
WHEN PEOPLE USE IT, WE USUALLY CHANGE IT BACK TO UPPER- AND LOWER-CASE (AS I JUST HAD TO DO IN THE 7 POSTS IN THIS THREAD). BUT IF PEOPLE REPEATEDLY DO IT, WE THROW THEIR ACCOUNTS INTO MODERATION AND IF THAT DOESN’T STOP THEM, WE TURN THEM OFF.
Ron Lindeboom
creativecow.net -
[Visionary Films] “besides i have a hard time reading small print half the time and big the letters help me to see the screen, so like anywayz!!!”
USING ALL CAPS IS CALLED “SHOUTING” IN INTERNET PARLANCE. WE DO NOT WANT IT USED IN OUR SUBJECT LINES, AS IT MAKES THE FORUMS LOOK LIKE CRAP WHEN IT’S DONE.
WHEN PEOPLE USE IT, WE USUALLY CHANGE IT BACK TO UPPER- AND LOWER-CASE (AS I JUST HAD TO DO IN THE 7 POSTS IN THIS THREAD). BUT IF PEOPLE REPEATEDLY DO IT, WE THROW THEIR ACCOUNTS INTO MODERATION AND IF THAT DOESN’T STOP THEM, WE TURN THEM OFF.
Ron Lindeboom
creativecow.net -
Technically, you are supposed to be able to click on an object (so that the corner points appear in your selected object) and then move your cursor’s pointer just barely outside any of your corner points and then your pointer will become two arrows, one pointing to the top of your screen, the other to the side of your screen. You can then move your mouse/pen/etc. to randomly rotate your object to where you want it visually.
Me, I have never found the magic to get this to work for me (I have tried using both the black and white arrow tools) and fortunately, I know degrees of rotation pretty well and can nail things with the numeric dialog box in usually a couple of tries.
If anyone knows why I have not found the magic, please let me know.
Best,
Ron Lindeboom