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Hi Vegasuser88, you can only do that if you have an audio card with 14 or more discreet inputs. Like I’m using the Motu 24 I/O which has 24 inputs and 24 outputs. It’s a breeze to do it on there. Without an multiple input audio card, you’ll have to get as good a “Live” mix as you can on your analog board, and record the stereo output to Vegas. Don’t forget to set Vegas’ audio card to the one connected to your analog mixer’s output. Other than that you have to record one track at a time to Vegas, (probably not what you want to do) but if you do, make sure you have at least one bar of click track before every track, so you have something to sync up to in Post Production. Hope that helps?
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Thanks for the info and help guys. My aim was to stay away from .PNG sequences they don’t seem as clear as .AVI’s with alpha to me. I want my final product to be of the highest resolution possible. So I tried your Vegas exporting tutorial Elvis, thanks for that. It’s not bad, but renders the alpha black so the overall green screened .AVI, is darkened. It’s useable but not as good as UltraKey’s white alpha 32-bit. So I’ll be sticking with that. I also did try the FrameServer. I got very excited about that idea, thinking I could tweak the green screen footage from Vegas while monitoring inside Particle Illusion. But alas, you can’t do that. Man, that would be powerful if you could!! Anyways thanks for all your help. Here’s an example of how the green screen UltraKey white 32-bit footage looks out of Particle Illusions, definitely useable.
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Ok just to follow up. I’ve downloaded and installed both Lagarith, and Huffyuv v2.1.1 and Codec Sniper. The latter shows all my codex are fine. Ran tests on exporting Alpha screen footage out of UltraKey, in Huffyuv format. I checked off “Enable RGBA (RGB with alpha) Compression”. Particle Illusions loaded this file without crashing, but doesn’t show the Alpha. In other words no layering. I see no options to export with Alpha in the Lagarith codec. So the only option that works for loading UltraKey output into Particle Illusions is uncompressed 32-bit .AVI with Alpha. Yet if I want to export UltraKey footage without Alpha, in otherwords uncompressed .AVI 24-bit, that footage crashes PI 3.02. So I’m at a loss to get this to work as I hoped. I’ll try Elvis’ tutorial on exporting Alpha footage from Vegas next. Don’t get me wrong I’m not complaining, PI is a fabulous program!! I do have a work around for getting non-alpha footage out of UltraKey and into PI, I had just hoped that it would support the 24-bit files, and that the other codec’s supported alpha in PI.
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Thanks so much Alan, for shedding some light on this subject. I’ll download those codecs, run some tests, and report back. I’ll also run codec sniper to see if it’s something on my end. Thanks again for taking the time.
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Thanks Elvis, I’ll give that a go. BTW has anyone tested the Ultra clip I posted to see if it crashes PI for you too? Just curious, all in the interest of easy workflow.
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Thanks Elvis, that was the ticket! I had to load it into UltraKey, then choose white as the background. Now it works perfectly in PI. Thanks again! Exporting with a black background or a checkerboard one is not so hot, but white works quite well. Thanks to the PI programming team, for adding this feature. Crucial for the kind of work I do. Well done lads!!
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Hey Brett, ya like Ed says you have to convert to a size that’s suitable for the Internet. There’s no way a 385 meg .AVI will work, it will take them forever to download it. I’ve had great success with exporting my Vegas projects to Windows Media Video V9 (.WMV) Template (512kbps) It’s size looks like this https://www.robjames.net/Pirate.wmv Lately I’ve been working with Particle Illusions to make Wormholes and the like, I rendered those out at Windows Media Video V9 (.WMV) Template (3Mbps) It comes out full size, as seen here https://www.robjames.net/Warp.wmv but the file size is miniscule compared to the .AVI. You should easily be able to reduce the size of your 385 megs file to 16 megs or so. So much easier and quicker to download, and as you can see the quality is very high. So try those two formats and see if you like them. Hope this helps a bit.
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Hi Elvis, thanks so much for your quick response, it’s appreciated. Ok that would completely explain the problem I’m having, because your (.PNG) sequence worked perfectly. The Alpha output from UltraKey is not working, nor is loading the green screen .AVI into PI and exporting in .PNG format with Alpha. I’ve even tried exporting my green screen footage out of Vegas 7.0 with Alpha, still no go! I’m searching for a solution before the 3.02 update release. Any chance you could try exporting out of Vegas? Maybe I’m just not setting the export settings correctly? If not, I’ll continue experimenting, hoping to find a solution. Thanks so much for your assistance, and clearing up why it isn’t working for me. Seems odd they didn’t incorporate loading green screen .AVI’s into PI, you’d think that would be it’s primary function. Anyways, back to the drawing board.
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Hi Chris, normally a compressor is used in audio applications and in NLE situations, to resolve this. Depending on what version of Vegas you’re running, it automatically places three effects on your audio track every time you add an audio track or video track with audio. They are, in order, Track Noise Gate, Track EQ, and Track Compressor. Viewable by left clicking the Track FX button on your narrator’s track. If those FX’s are not added by default then you’re running an older version of Vegas, and I would search the plugins you have on your computer (Direct X and others) for a compressor. If you do have the Track Compressor effect on your audio track, simply single left click it, to highlight it, and adjust it’s settings from within there. You’ll get the idea of what each setting does by altering them, and monitoring your audio track at the same time. If none of this resolves your issue, and it should, you’ll have to automate the levels on your audio track, until it sounds useable. Done by right clicking your audio track and choosing Insert/Remove Envelope/Volume. Then right click the line it creates and choose Add Point. Drop points wherever you want to automate the volume and adjust them in places where your audio is spiking. Hope this helps.
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I have no experience with EffectsLab Pro(FX Home), but Particle Illusions is absolutely fantastic. Things like fire from Godzilla’s mouth are super easy to do, and done in minutes. Render times are extremely fast, even in full uncompressed format. It accepts pictures or video with an Alpha channel, so if you shot your subject with a green screen background, you can add any background footage easily in Particle Illusions. Even easier than in Vegas, and that’s saying something. I highly recommend it! You can set your entire city on fire with explosions going off everywhere, with extreme realism. Right now I’m learning a tutorial on how to disintegrate an entire body to dust, in mid-air, after being blasted with a laser beam. All easy things to with this package. Oh, and I highly recommend watching the video tutorials that come on the install disk. The learning curve was extremely hard, until I watched those, now it’s like falling off a log.