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[Walter Soyka] “I’m not shifting goalposts.”
Okay. Then I just don’t know what “full compositing/VFX” have to do with my initial assertion.
[Walter Soyka] “It seemed like you were asserting there was little value to be gained from being able to move from NLE to compositor. But now you’ve clarified:”
Exactly. I clarified that it is in fact possible with both (if you insist on calling Motion “a compositor”, which I don’t), merely the procedures, results and general use cases differ. But again, first and foremost dissenting the notion the text integration and features were somehow comparable past a (very low) point.
– RK
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[Walter Soyka] “You don’t get to use all of Motion’s power in FCPX; you only get to use what you can and do expose.”
Sorry, but I can only see that as a strength. Disabling features and functionality that some Joe Shmo editor doesn’t understand and will only use to mess everything up is a good thing in my book and is in fact the whole point. Everyone else can pop over to Motion with one click and do whatever else they need.
[Walter Soyka] “moves to a full compositing/VFX context”
FCPX is neither geared nor aimed for that. Clearly one of the reasons why e.g. Fincher chose to go with PPro. That also being a single digit percentage of the editing crowd (at best) to begin with. Win some, lose some. That’s why there are choices. No shame in that.
[Walter Soyka] “are you actually making the argument that there is no real need for this approach in post-production?”
Er, no. I’m saying that it is more than possible to do what was described, even if it does require a few more clicks or even a cheap additional plugin or app. I never claimed feature parity or the likes. Of course there are differences, strengths and weaknesses. But then this started in the context of the new TEXT functionality in comparison, not “full compositing/VFX” (that being your and, indirectly, Oliver’s point), so let’s not shift the goal-post as needed. ????
Or are you arguing that “Just like Motion templates, but with even more control” isn’t hyperbole and factually wrong?
– RK
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[Craig Seeman] “Note the limitations though. This may well be the same things Apple is up against (and therefore haven’t implemented yet).”
I’d say you’re right.
Personally this is nothing I need or miss, since I archive archive copies of all cards and media anyway and simply delete all media before archiving the finished library. Which then is obviously very small. This wouldn’t save me anything in my workflow.
[Jeremy Garchow] “trim and transcode to, say 444 or XQ.”
Huh? Wait. Isn’t the whole point of this to save space??
And apparently some people haven’t heard of the differences between ProRes’ and H.264 color space for starters, or that there are already endless cameras that record to ProRes to SD just fine, but oh well.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “Place several clips in an FCPX sequence (project). Mix of primary and connected.”
???? … love how you already gave yourself the answer twice, only to (of course) exclude them as solutions from the get go. Just a tad disingenuous, no? Because you obviously know there are many ways to do this. Is it as convenient and simple as the ol’ “Send to“? No. But that may well return soon, too, along with the other options!
So yeah, if I actually need that exact functionality, and I’m fairly sure the vast majority of X users don’t btw, then I’ll work with ⌘⇧R, drop zones, templates OR, if I need it to a more frequent extent, I’ll just give Wes a couple of bucks. And no, I won’t remind anyone what that extra cost amounts to in CC dollars… Doh! Dammit. Did it again. ????
So, again, Motion’s integration is deeper and more powerful on so many levels, especially text, yes. Great for Adobe that they’re getting there! Enjoy it for what it is! Both have their weaknesses. Just pointing out a rather ill-prepared comparison.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “you cannot directly import a multiclip Motion composition into FCPX”
Huh? Then I guess I have no clue what you even mean by “multiclip Motion composition“, because I can’t think of anything from Motion that you can’t get into FCP, sorry. Other than maybe a project with audio (meaning the project yes, it’s audio no).
And even if whatever it is you mean can’t be done/used/imported, are you suggesting that that makes the integration of AE in PPro somehow on par?? ????
– RK
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Titles do not translate via the old FCP XML, let alone the proprietary Premiere title format. Unless you want to do them all over from scratch in FCP, you’ll have to render the subtitles out from Premiere (with an alpha obviously) and superimpose them. What I believe it is you’re suggesting?
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “a multi-clip Motion composition”
Er… what about it?
– RK
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The mask is attached to the video, so, yeah, it’ll move with it. Which is why you would need to either move THE CLIP first THEN mask it, or move the clip and simply readjust/move the mask.
There’s no easy solution that I can think of within FCP. That’s what either Motion is for, where you can make your own template using drop zones, or 3rd party plugins that do a split screen effect. Of which there are many. E.g. mFrame: https://www.motionvfx.com/mplugs-96.html (check out the 19th template in the list).
– RK
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[Morten Ranmar] “Just like Motion templates, but with even more control”
I’m sorry, but you clearly have no idea how deep FCP’s Motion integration in fact goes. The two couldn’t be any further from comparable. This is stuff you could do in FCP over five years ago. And then some. I won’t even mention performance.
And the first I heard of this update was from the headline of a newsletter from Cinema5D that reads “Alert! Do Not Upgrade To Premiere Pro CC 2017.1” … ????
– RK
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[John Watts] “So, I’m looking at a brand new iMac, as much Ram and CPU as practical”
The component you’ll want to watch for first and foremost, is the GPU. Max out the VRAM and everything else is just icing, in the context of Final Cut Pro X. I personally wouldn’t even bother with a CPU upgrade and just go with whatever’s stock. And I doubt you’ll regret the switch. But definitely treat yourself to some Ripple Training. ????
– RK
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