[Robin S. kurz]

[Julius Jonas] “Also, you can pretty easily put your Logic library, Photos library and even iTunes if you really want to, onto an external storage.”

Yes, I’m aware of that, only that was my whole point: I don’t want to. I want to have that media with me at all times without the need for external storage. Other than those “basics”, everything goes onto external storage, yes.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Joe Marler] “If media is on the boot drive there are some cases where SSD is faster but (a) You normally don’t want media on the boot drive, and (b) Even 1TB of SSD is too small to put much media on it. “

The reason I get large-as-possible internal storage, is for various media libraries such as Photos, iTunes, Logic’s and FCP’s sound libraries etc. All of which amount to well over 1TB, but certainly don’t demand super-speed. Media I want access to without needing to attach (and therefore possibly carry around) external disks.

And as you say (and I know from experience), an SSD will not do anything worth mentioning in terms of overall performance. Certainly nothing that gets you anywhere close to make up for the horrendous difference in $$ per GB.

That said, I certainly enjoy the mind-boggling speed (near 3GB/s) of my MBP’s SSD when copying things or rebooting. But then it was not optional, nor would I have spent what they cost on getting one had it been.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Julius Jonas] “Which model are you getting? Radeon 475 or 480? “

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No current iMac has either. Nor do I get what the GPU could possibly have to do with the storage options.

[Julius Jonas] “it is not good to use different sized RAM sticks.”

That most certainly does not apply to iMacs and only applied to some very select few machines of yesteryear. Whereby mixing same sized PAIRS has never ever been an issue. If anything then mixing different sized sticks on the same bank and only with very specific types of RAM (for parity reasons). So this is a complete non-issue.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Martin Curtis] “I have a 2015 iMac with a 1TB SSD in one office and a 2013 iMac with a 3TB fusion drive in another and I know which office I prefer.”

I highly doubt that any mentionable performance differences will merely be due to the SSD as opposed to a Fusion drive by any relevant level. There are many many other specs that will play into that and make the real difference, whatever it may be.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Jeremy Garchow] “And wouldn’t that simply be a favorite that doesn’t have a “used” tag?”

Exactly. That or simply tagged somehow else. That was pretty much my previous point as well, yes.

As I do my first review of all the footage (obviously something I have to do no matter what, with or without director or producer) I simply Favorite or have the first top five relevant keywords (automatically) mapped to ctrl-1 thru 5. One of many examples: I recently edited a promo for a pet shop of sorts and immediately tagged Cat, Dog, or BOTH for the same clip, names of people etc. Rejecting (e.g. slates, flubs etc.) removes everything that most definitely won’t make it to the timeline, never to be seen again, unless I want to.

All this happens in multiples of realtime while skimming through the media. Skim click, skim click, skim click… After that I could, if I wanted, have a stringout of any and everything of any interest to me in just two clicks. Be it my favorites, my cats, my dogs… yadda yadda. OR I simply have a perfect overview of everything in my event in filmstrip view for me, a director, a producer, my mom to say “ooh, THAT shot”. Always ONLY seeing what is of any overall relevance to me as per the first run through. Ergo: the least amount of clutter possible.

And yes, I’m 110% sure that that is exponentially more efficient than shuffling through 5 timelines. Especially as the edit progresses!

With interviews I skim through, select the parts I want, favorite them and then, in the order I select those favorites on a single clip, that’s the order they land in the timeline with a simple click of the E-key for a perfect frankenbite. Try that from one timeline to the next. ????

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Don Walker] “Is an FCPX editor really going to see much difference between the two, all other options being equal?”

I was talking about performance specifically regarding FCP, yes. And I can only tell you that we have 20+ iMacs with part i5 and part i7 and I can guarantee you that no one can tell you which is which without running an actual benchmark or checking the Mac info window.

Personally, again, in the context of FCP/Motion, I find the price : speed increase (single digit percentage at best, for select operations) ratio rather disproportionate. But if the several hundred $$ more for the i7 are no issue, go for it.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Claude Lyneis] “Booting up on my 2011 Mac is a real irritation to me, it drags on for what seems like forever”

I meant more booting up of FCP. ???? Since I never actually turn off my machine, only really restart it when it’s updated, I really don’t care much about machine boot-up speeds.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Peter DeArmond] “but I would choose the core i7 over the core i5 processor.”

Why? While working with FCP X, Motion et al, the CPU is by far the least relevant when it comes to working performance. You want to max out the GPU first and foremost, then get a decent amount of RAM, then fast external storage.

[Peter DeArmond] “an external Thunderbolt 3 4-bay SSD RAID”

This is complete overkill imho. Why in the world SSDs? You are paying, what, TEN TIMES more per GB compared to a regular spinning disk? With a four (spinning) disk RAID such as a Promise R4 you’re already getting near 600MB/s… what could that not be enough for? And that at a fraction of the price. It’s not like he’s looking to edit uncompressed 5K material or the likes.

Having an internal SSD also has little to no bearing on FCP performance as well (aside from maybe booting up?). Same story. If anything, I’d upgrade to the 3TB Fusion.

Either way, I can say from experience, the current iMac with the above characteristics is more than fine for doing 4K work of any kind. Other than maybe Thunderbolt 3 or 10G Enet, I really don’t see why you’d would want or have to wait for the Pro. Never mind that it’s starting price is already near TWICE that of the largest current iMac.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Oliver Peters] “It was a response to Tony’s original question”

Which still doesn’t answer mine.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Oliver Peters] “FCPX assigns “used” metadata, but no “previously used but removed” indicators.”

What could I possibly need that information for? Quite the red herring if you ask me. Never mind that there are always snapshots or various other options to give or retain that information to/for me if I actually think I might need it in the future.

So even if, for whatever abstrus reason I need that particular info, if I’ve done my homework, and that’s what this is all about, then I will know exactly what is or was where if needed. I for one know exactly where which footage is that could be or could have been of any interest at any time when I edit. Again, if not, then one simply doesn’t know the tools.

– RK

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