[Robert Smith]

Reading this thread after hearing Resolve does output to second monitors …currently an intermittent feature in 16.X betas;

Despite English not being your first language, the initial reaction was correct , there is a certain superior and unhelpful manner imparted by the clever reply, these characters are careful to use the words “seems, may and could” to create a veneer of politeness. Had to smirk when the f4nb0y chimed in.

IMO – Your simpering apology was unnecessary.

[Robert Smith]

Thank you for continuing to take an interest in this issue,

[Tomas Bumbulevičius] “instead of running a shell script – that designer, after adding item into render queue, would simply locate output direction and overwrites it on top” …yes! … from my previous post : The option to overwrite exists in after effects; highlight a completed render queue item and press command + shift + d. …the problem is; render fails.

[Tomas Bumbulevičius] ” better approach would be ‘rename’ and old output file, and then, render new output with original name. “
We have experimented with many workarounds since CS6 ‘broke the mould’, my own favourite solution; where possible use CS5, which overwrites without issue, like all versions before it.

Do you know if it is feasible , how to make CS6 pass an argument (eg. queued file name) by default, to an applescript, before every render begins?

[Robert Smith]

Thanks again for the interest!

1. What is the reason that you need to overwrite existing named files in the renderQueue?
Typical scenario: .mov with straight alpha is created for a speed blurred price element with animated text “NEW only $1.99” with a little glint and a slight bounce as it settles into place.
After a few minutes watching it in situ , the creative team request that the glint is removed and the bounce is accentuated… once this has been reviewed the team want to remove the glint, the producer gets a call and the price is reduced to $1.98, later that day the price goes up …and so on; this can generate redundant, incrementally numbered footage and repetitive action; importing and replacing material that is already present in the edit software (FCPX /Resolve).

2. Are you set rendering location to be in the same place all the times?
The rendered media that could be overwritten may be anywhere on the local network according to AE queue settings for the project underway.

3. Don’t you make a risk of overwriting files which might be needed after all?
Yes but that was only a consideration when we used to wait 15 minutes for one frame of SDI to render !!!!
The option to overwrite exists in after effects; highlight a completed render queue item and press command + shift + d. Pre CS6 versions successfully overwrote files in this manner.

[Robert Smith]

thanks for the reply TB.
Its totally manual; we type rm into a shell then drag and drop the offending file from finder into shell , hit return , back to AE and click render.

I have not heard of Extendscript, will follow your lead and search it out now , regards

….update
I got as far as AdobeExtendScriptToolkit3.5.0-mul.dmg on Adobe site which was in archive/ CS5 toolkit. Lots of complex stuff for a bloke who has only rustled aup the odd bash housekeeping script in the past 🙂

Is it possible to augment AECS6 using Extendscript so that AE will successfully overwrite existing named files from the render queue ?

[Robert Smith]

Hello Chaps.
We came across the same behaviour today but with .NEF (Nikon raw) … the same file/images open well in PS but are noisy in AE , this is with or without tweaking during the nikon raw import ‘pre processing’ stage.

Im using CS6 AE (32bit mode) and PS on Sierra with Nikon camera raw 8.2 (D800)
What software were you folks using? This is the kind of behaviour that Adobe will correct in future so it would be interesting if someone who is on the Adobe ‘pay forever – deal’ with modern software would chime in as it may already be fixed.

[Robert Smith]

hah – I just read a thread of mine from 13+ years ago …and the pain came back!
I had a truly AWFUL time with media 100, it eventually turned out that the PSU supplied in our mac was too small for the number of cards in the machine but the company reputation had been damaged over that bad bad year…

[Robert Smith]

whilst bowing to your superior knowledge of apple hardware names and consumate power of acronymns it seems I must pedantically explain that currently , when kerning in FCPX, after clicking between the offending letter space, one currently has no choice but to move the focus of ones eyes from the typography being refined to the type tool gadget that is needed to refine it; once the eyes have moved, the hand and mouse must then co ordinate to click the chosen field/slider and perform the refinement , this process then repeated for every letter … HTH.

Trust me old man; at some point the apple software chaps will say; “oops we forgot to allow kerning from the keyboard via arrow keys with shift and option incremental modifiers , likely our tool is tedious for people who need to craft lots of captions for TV during live sessions with clients” they will then attend to the omission and suddenly we will have no bone to pick with each other.

[Robert Smith]

heh pulled out a mighty meece and new batteries but argh… to kern a word with the mighty mouse has the same issues of constantly changing focus from typography to text control gadget and back again. It just isn’t a procedure I can live with due to the inefficiency.

btw. now back with my trusty microsoft BOM it appears the scroll wheel works kern tool in the same manner ; thanks again!

[Robert Smith]

thanks for that useful tip Martin.

[Robert Smith]

[Bill Davis] “‘m still going to consider that you haven’t fully made the switch in your thinking from what matters in your last area of expertise to your new one.”

To quote : [Andy Branner] “Um…”
please recall i’m the one whose TV kerning expertise is satisfied* – you considered separate objects for cap T and lower case o.

*barring the query that opened this thread; What is the keyboard short cut for FCPX that lets one kern text in a similar manner to other professional video production tools ie; with the industry standard left/right arrow keys ? btw. It was kindly confirmed that no such facility exits currently.