Robert Brown
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Yeah I liked what saw. I’ve made the comment here a couple of times that I thought they should freshen up the UI. Not a total re-design but just modernize it a bit to give it a new look and feel. From what I saw that’s exactly what they did. Any rumors about when 6 will get to market?
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[Michael Hancock] “Pick one. Nobody knows which one is right. What’s the point of this? If FCPX works for you and you can make money with it, do it. If you can’t, move to an NLE that does.”
Exactly! It seems this debate is getting a little tiring. It’s actually the best time ever for something like this to happen because there are plenty of options and the hardware is more flexible than ever. I can use 7 all I want and I would guess I could get another couple of years out of it if I wanted to.
This whole thing has prompted me to look at other software and figure out which direction I want to go but I was already thinking of that just based on seeing what Apple chose to do with previous FCP upgrades and I began to feel it wasn’t the right system for what I needed and that they just weren’t fixing the things I needed fixed. Instead they “fixed” the best part of the program, the timeline.
But amongst all of the things Apple bunged up here is the lack of a 30 day trial like all of their competitors have. I would download X and check it out but there is no way I’m spending $300 when I know it’s not going to do what I want.
As far as the previous comment that Avid is able to do much better but is afraid, I don’t buy it. I think what they previewed the other night is what people who do this for a living are looking for. 64 Bit, better performance, more hardware support, more codec support, more storage support, and hopefully a more flexible timeline etc.
They do have to be a bit more cautious obviously because they aren’t Apple with revenue from a hundred sources and so they do need to get the nod from their users because that’s where their money comes from. But I just don’t buy that there is some radically better way to edit that they’re holding back on. It’s all just sliding clips around in a timeline.
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Apple deserved a little dumping on. And I’m sure Avid got it’s share in around ’04 when FCP really started coming on strong and Avid was out to lunch. It’s already died down a bit but I have found the thing pretty entertaining.
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Mad Mac users Beyond the Thunderdome
FCPX Men
“X” Files
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In any event, you’re missing my point, which has nothing to do with the “pro” vs. “consumer” market segments. It is, instead, about how plausible it is that a new Apple product is merely misunderstood, rather than being a failure. And this is, in fact, quite plausible, given Apple’s track record of introducing products are are initially misunderstood, but go on to significant later success.–“
I have made no statement about “X” being a failure or not. I haven’t tried it. But I use 2 monitors, edl export, I assign tracks to specific channels etc., and from what I’ve heard you can’t do that in “X”. And from what I have actually seen in FCP, and it’s various releases, Apple does not understand pro video and simply doesn’t want to play that game anymore if they ever did. And they are not in a position to reinvent it. There are still fields to deal with, and 3:2 pulldowns etc. whether they find them interesting or nor.
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[Chris Kenny] “Seriously. The original Mac, the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad (among others) all faced very similar initial reactions in some circles. “The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things,” etc.
Oh, sure, this time it’s different, right? Maybe. But given Apple’s track record, that’s not the way to bet.
“You just listed a bunch of toys for consumers which I admittedly own myself but could live without – except for the mouse that was a good one.
But what is Apple’s “track record” with pro products? They don’t invent them they buy them from somebody else, play with them a few years and then KILL them, or in this case mutate it into a consumer product.
I have faith in Apple to keep making and selling toys, and to keep the stock price up. I’ll look to other companies for professional products.
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[Sean Thomas] “So what is your 2 year / 5 year / 10 year plan for OS X, FCP X, hardware, etc.?”
In 10 years you’re still going to need this track to channel 1, this one to 2, a little more or less time before the music starts, a little more contrast in that shot, blah, blah blah.
And BTW I’m not complaining. I’m glad all of this is happening.
[Sean Thomas] “Apple makes the program, the OS, the hardware. Editors can’t even come close to comprehending the development path – yet they want to dictate development.”
Oh we’re that dumb are we? And no not dictate, maybe steer? There’s no way I’m ever going to look at a company like Apple as a sort of supreme being. They make products for people, if people like them they buy them, if not they don’t.
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The theory that Apple is just way ahead of the curve and we’re too dumb to realize it just wreaks of the same arrogance of the whole “X” release. Guys who do this for a living should be telling Apple what to do, not the other way around. If you have what you think is a great idea, add it as a feature and see how it goes. Don’t mandate it.
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The funny thing about “copying” comments is that there is a big long history to all of these companies with a small number of players moving from company to company. How could they not copy when the guy who developed Premiere then moved to Apple to work on FCP. It’s a small pond really.
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[Sean Thomas] “Remeber FCP 1-2-3-4-5-6-7. Was the first version lacking compared to 2-7? Do you think that X won’t be improved and expanded?
This is a new program just like OS X was to OS 9. Apple is moving forward with technologies it has developed over the past 2-3 years. Obviously the OLD FCP code would not allow “moving forward”.”
Apple to me has proven that they just don’t have the right mindset for the broadcast TV and feature film world. Their into whatever their into at the moment and when they lose interest they lose interest. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them dumb down X instead of make it more advanced. Right now it seems somewhere between pro and prosumer. They’re going to have to go one way or the other.