[Robert Brown]

[Mark Palmos] ” IMO there should not be things called lift and extract, they should be called cut and ripple cut so one could use the universal terms copy and paste too”

I think those are Avid terms and that’s where they came from. But the FCP way is extremely fast for getting rid of stuff.

[Robert Brown]

12 Core Mac, 10.6.8, PPro 5.5, 8GB, GTX 285. I did not try the exact hot key you described as I use FCP keys. I did try it from the sequence menu. I guess I could try loading up default keys and trying that exact combination just to be sure I’m not missing something.

[Robert Brown]

I really think Apple kind of sold their soul on this one. They misled professional editors who had helped build the success of the product into thinking they were working in their interests and only at the last moment did they show their cards.

Now they are releasing a product to the masses that uses the name that they built with cooperation of the pro community just to sell more units. And the product may actually be too advanced for a casual user and not really benefit them in transitioning to the professional level even though it is implied that it will. The whole thing just wreaks greed. And I’d bet that’s a big part of what’s really bothering people about this whole thing.

[Robert Brown]

[Chris Jacek] “It’s kinda be like announcing a new 3-cylindar Corvette at the Daytona 500.

Perhaps I am being too cynical (though I’ve been pretty good at predicting these things), but I think that anyone who believes that Apple is going continue supporting the professional apps is being naive. I think that rather, they are going to redefine what a professional is, by lowering the bar significantly.
“

LOL I think this may be the new Apple “Pro”

[Robert Brown]

I had my record monitor lockup and hold onto a frame without updating. In this case restarting did fix it but I also found if I closed the record monitor and re-opened it, it went back to normal.

BTW Tom how do you trash prefs in PPro?

[Robert Brown]

Nobody’s stopping you from playing with your new keyboard but your analogy kind of says FCPX is innovation when in reality it’s experimentation as it’s a new theory about how editing should be done and it is laregly unknown as to how well it will do or stick. To bet that FCPX will succeed if you are a freelance editor and so not bother brushing up on other software would be an extremely risky thing to do.

[Robert Brown]

A big thing is if you make a living as a free lance FCP editor then you know as soon as Apple made the announcement that the clock is ticking for how long that will be a valuable skill and that you’d better at least start taking a look and figure out what direction you are going to go.

Apple defined FCPX very clearly as a MAYBE. It already had been one for the last couple of years with it’s shortcomings becoming more and more clear but we had hope that with the new release we could all relax as the new FCP would fix all of that and give FCP years more as a dominant player. They couldn’t have gone more in the opposite direction of what many people had wanted. For myself I wanted the old FCP timeline but with the performance of PPro.

But sure I will still do work in FCP as long as people pay me to but the clock is definitely ticking. And I have spoken to some pretty big management types in broadcast and they already are not seeing FCPX as part of their future plans and are also looking at the alternatives. Now’s not the time to wait.

[Robert Brown]

[David Cherniack] “There is. In the sequence menu. Render Work Area. Mine’s set to Ctl Enter but it’s a definable keystoke.

I’ve observed that a lot of you FCP-ers are making premature assumptions about what PrPro can and can’t do…without fully familiarizing yourself with the software. Like any other NLE it’s a deep program that takes time to learn. I still discover new things after 6 years. So hold back on the conclusion leaping and ask, don’t assume.
“

Thanks but I know about render work area and what I’m seeing is still the same. There seem to be conditions were PPro thinks it doesn’t need to render and so doesn’t even if you tell it to. I go into
sequence, hit render work area and it does nothing as there is a yellow bar and it cannot play the
comp in real time. Yes people can jump to conclusions but it can go both ways.

And BTW FCP has this exact same issue where sometimes it won’t render no matter what you do unless you add a plugin.

[Robert Brown]

I think this is one of the most important things Adobe has to figure out. The reliability of playback just isn’t there yet. Sometimes I render a sequence and play it back and the first time I play it it skips badly but I play it again and it’s ok like it has to get cached into ram or something.

Also I think there needs to be a force render, unless there is and I haven’t found it. I’ve had times where I had 3 layers and PPro thought it could do it in real time but couldn’t. Maybe the disk couldn’t read the video fast enough but it wouldn’t play back without skipping and also refused to render it.

[Robert Brown]

I’m guessing NAB but just purely a guess.