Robert Brown
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I don’t do mixes as my primary gig but I do them from time to time. I started looking a round a couple of years ago as I wanted to move into 5.1. I had pro tools with a M-Box and was looking at serious $$$ to get into PT 5.1. I tried logic since it wasn’t too expensive and would work with my hardware which is a big deal. I was disappointed to find logic wouldn’t read the x-dissolves from an FCP OMF. WTF? I like to use FCP to do a lot of the audio editing since it’s quite good for laying stuff out, and I’m big on cross fades to smooth everything out. I would have thought being an Apple product it would be all over an FCP OMF. I also found the program pretty rigid and wanted something kind of like Soundtrack where it used NLE style key commands.
Then I tried Nuendo and haven’t looked back. One of my favorite programs ever. I can set up the hot keys to act like FCP, not exactly but close. It reads the OMFs perfectly with all x-fades, and has some of the most logical editing tools I’ve ever seen. Like gaining a track is as simple as holding your mouse over it and turning the mouse wheel for one our as many tracks as you like. You can also add fades and tweak fades to as many tracks as you like all at the same time.
Being mostly an editor who didn’t want to learn a whole new set of key commands for basic editing I’ve found this a great app. It’s also 32bit float, which gives it a huge amount of internal dynamic range.
But it will be interesting to see how things evolve for Apple. It seems there are companies that specialize in this stuff that are putting major effort into making really good software and who’s live depend on it. If pro apps turn into just a hobby for Apple they’ll get passed by pretty quick. Not that they seem to care.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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My bad
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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Seems kind of like a blow to Logic if I’m seeing this right. Logic at $500 was a great deal as it was a good DAW, competitive with Pro Tools that came with more extras than anything else out there. Presets, loops, SFX etc. The Apple site says the whole package is 400MB or so which has to be much less than what you got in the packaged version on several DVDs. Is it just me or is Apple making a mockery out of their formerly, legitimate “pro apps”. Or is this just a cheaper version with the disc version still available?
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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Yeah I think it’s doable if only your output is U/C and not source footage but you definitely have to delete when the project is done.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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As far as HD looking like crap in an SD sequence I’ve seen the same thing. It’s seems PPro’s scaling is not so good for that so I had to dynamic link those clips to AE and scale them there and it was MUCH better.
Night and day. You may have to experiment with your work flow to get an efficient way to do that, like editing your sequence in HD and down convert the whole thing in AE.Also keep in mind the whole FCP thing had something really unique going for it that nobody else really seems to have AFAIK. FCP is built on quicktime so you can edit compressed footage and it won’t uncompress/re-compress it unless you apply some effect or CC to it. Meaning if you do a cut with all compressed quicktimes and export those, the frames will be identical to the raw files if you export with the same codec. That gives you more multi-generation capability then the other guys will have using DVCPRO, and ProRes etc. PPro uncompresses everything since it was not built around quicktime or anything like that. It’s designed to work with whatever quicktime, avi etc. in Mac and Windows. That’s also why FCP is faster doing an export. That was kind of a bummer to hear because I thought for sure PPro would be as good as FCP in this regards but it’s not. I’ve ben thinking about mastering to Animation or uncompressed if round tripping or multi generation work is needed because that should achieve the same result.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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In a word, no. I’m not sure if PPro would use all of that but After Effects sure might. I was doing a 2K project recently with 32GB and AE still managed to use all of that. And then if you have a couple of programs open it helps even more. Also AE has this multi processor setting that renders several frames at once by using every processor. If it’s an HD project you have to have some serious RAM or it just bogs. On that same project AE was unusable with this turned on with 32GB. I have a 12 core machine though.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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BMD is slowly and surely becoming a behemoth. It’s good to see some video companies growing now when so many of the older ones are dead and dying.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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[Craig Seeman] ” Would Apple be daring enough to drop Firewire?”
Boy that’s piss off a lot of people. Everybody I know uses FW drives. Of course they also have USB, ESATA ports etc. but we all use the FW800 ports.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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[Walter Soyka] “After Effects, for example, does color management brilliantly.
“Really? I never got AE’s CM. Maybe I should read more about it but I just leave it off. Nuke is my favorite as everything gets converted to linear on the way in with viewing LUTs to compensate for your what you computer monitors will do to it. Then it gets converted to whatever space you need on the way out.
I’d like a good explanation of how AE does it as I really like AE but it seems whenever I turn on Color Management, something goes wrong somewhere and doesn’t look right. Nuke has individual control over input, monitoring and output which to me makes a lot of sense. With AE I’m never quite sure what it is doing to what.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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[Bret Williams] “In either case, I’m predicting a Xeon box with little if any expansion capability. Think Cube 2.0. A MacMini Pro of sorts with all the faster busses of the Mac Pro, ECC ram, Xeon processors- but without the internal drive bays, internal burner, and PCIe. “
Yeah I think that’s the whole point with Thunderbolt, to go in the direction of modular systems with stuff on the outside instead of the inside. I would be more inclined to believe that Apple would want to develop smaller portable computers that you could take with you, and then bring them to the office an just plug them into monitors, keyboards and storage. This makes me wonder if they will ever visit the cube again or just move in the direction of a super ipad that has the power of a MBP when plugged into TB devices, but that acts just like a regular ipad when unplugged. That would be my guess.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos