[Rob Clapham]

Hi all,

Sorry I’m a bit late to my own thread. Well, anyway in my first post, I said I couldn’t find where Apple officially pulled support for the product. But today I have found it – here is a link: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL837?locale=en_GB

Strange thing is, it is still available for download. I mean the article even goes on to say that this version “contains security updates…” But I don’t think these updates fix the issues Trend Micro have reported.

I’m beginning to think this is a bit of a non-issue… If most people have already uninstalled QuickTime then why would a potential attacker bother with the exploit? It’s kind of the same argument about Apple computers not getting viruses, it’s not that you can’t write viruses for Apple systems. But rather it’s far more unlikely because of the smaller user base. I just can’t find any other anti-virus outlet saying to uninstall the program for the same reasons as Trend Micro is suggesting.

Anyway, the latest version of QuickTime (7.7.9) at least uninstalls the QuickTime web browser plugin if it was previously installed. And doesn’t install it by default. So perhaps the answer is to just leave it and not use the QuickTime player.

Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Thanks Wayne,

I still think NeatVideo can be pretty effective, once the settings are optimised. But saying that, I haven’t had the benefit of comparing it to the denoiser you mention by John Meyer. So it’s more than likely a big improvement – I’m interested in checking this out, but I don’t have an i7 and if it’s quite intensive, it might be better for me to stick with NeatVideo until I can upgrade my computer.

Your post has opened my eyes a lot. I think I’ve been obsessing over trying to get everything to run quickly etc. That I’ve forgotten to actually make the videos because I enjoy it!

You’re absolutely right by saying “content is king.” The amount of stuff I watch, sometimes with poor audio, sometimes poor video, sometimes both – and the reason I carry on watching? Content. Sometimes, you need someone to point the obvious out!

Take care,

Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Hi,

Maybe I’m completely wrong, but I would have thought it would work OK on Vegas 12. Despite my previous post suggesting that it isn’t supported in Vegas 12 because the website says so.

Before, I picked up Sony Vegas 13, I used Premiere Elements 13. But I managed to get Magic Bullet Looks, and Colorista (free version) to work with it – despite Red Giant not saying whether or not Elements was supported. Basically I just had to move the plugins into the correct Elements plugin folder. Maybe something similar is the case with Vegas 12? But I doubt it, as Wayne would have said to do that in his post.

The best thing would be for the OP to download the trial version – to see if it works on Vegas 12 for him. If it didn’t then, the stand alone version could be an option.

Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Sorry for the late reply.

I did enable 32 bit video levels and it minimised the banding a lot! So, thanks for that John. Unfortunately it did add a little to the render time.

Out of interest, I used the same video and changed it back to 8 bit in the project settings, I didn’t dither the cleaned NeatVideo footage. Instead I added noise with a value of “0.010” as the last effect in my chain, for the colour corrected footage.

I’m not sure if people would say that this is the ‘right’ method, but I feel the end result is almost as good as using 32 bit video levels. And does speed up the render – at least for my own machine.

Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Sorry, I couldn’t figure out how to edit my above post.

Yeah, it’s definitely to do with YouTube on my Friestick (I wonder if other streaming devices have similar problems?) – played a video and it was just as out of sync as mine were.

Still, I think it’s strange that YouTube said I may experience sync issues. Does this occur when other people upload their videos?

[Rob Clapham]

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for the response. Good to know that Handbrake can’t read the “fake” avi files on it’s own – and that the article you originally posted is the way to do it properly.

I think removing the GoPro’s fisheye is done with VirtualDub isn’t it? I have used VirtualDub ages ago, for the stabilisation plug in – very useful stuff. I agree that NeatVideo can make things look very plasticy – I’ve had much more success with it now though, by altering the settings (something for some reason, I never thought to do, until I encountered that plastic look.) Since then I reduced the temporal radius from 2 to 1, which sped things up a lot – and in my opinion didn’t make the noise profile look much ‘worse.’ Even reducing the amount of noise being removed to -60%, the plugin managed to remove a lot of noise and not look like plastic. I really should invest in some better lighting though, to get my ISO down.

Well, hopefully the videos I put on YouTube will be seen by a ‘wider audience’ that is if people want to watch them. So, it isn’t for just for me to watch – if that makes sense. I agree, if it was a private/home movie or something similar uploading to YouTube isn’t the best approach. I just put a couple of videos up as I was testing out Acon Digital’s “Deverberate” plug in. I had already played it back on headphones and it sounded good to me, and wanted something else to compare it to other than laptop speakers. That’s how I encountered the audio and video sync problems with the Firestick. I did think it was odd though as the Sony AVC files I uploaded, mentioned during the YouTube upload process that video and audio might be out of sync. But as I already said, it was fine on everything I tested except the Firestick.

I wonder if the message I saw was relating to watching videos on the TV, whether it’s a Firestick, Roku or something similar? Come to think of it, a test I uploaded last night had the same problem and that was encoded with Handbrake (after I made a Sony AVC video) – as I wanted to see if the Audio/Video sync issues still remained, and they did – So I guess you’re right and that it is a problem with the Firestick. I’ll have to watch some other videos people have uploaded to see if it’s out of sync there (I mainly use YouTube to ‘watch’ radio type broadcasts with one picture, so maybe that’s why I haven’t noticed it before.) The YouTube message saying that there may be problems, also directed me to their help page on how to encode a video. But the page was only talking about Apple NLE’s and how to use QuickTime. The videos I’ve uploaded on YouTube are private, and have been up a couple of days so it’s not that YouTube hasn’t processed them yet.

Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Hi Aaron,

I guess that’s because dnxhd is in the Quicktime format? Maybe, I’m wrong. Seems strange though, as my experience with dnxhd, I haven’t been able to change the bitrate (other than the presets) and I think the lowest is around 45mbps (from memory) which is way over YouTube’s preferred bitrate.

I did get round to testing, whether .mxf was faster than the Sony AVC encode. Unfortunately on my machine the time is pretty much exactly the same. Not a huge deal, so I guess it’s easier to use Sony AVC as that is ready for YouTube…

But the problem is the Sony AVC files I’ve tried out on YouTube, play back flawlessly on both my main computer, tablet and the Chromebook we’ve got kicking around. However on the TV (fire stick) the YouTube app, basically ruins the video with very out of sync audio.

Not sure if this is a problem, with Sony AVC or YouTube’s TV app – as uploading the video, YouTube does warn that there ‘may be’ sync problems. But as I say, it works fine on multiple devices just not the TV. Strange.

I guess I’ll have to try out MainConcept again, to see if that fixes uploaded videos on the TV. But, that will double my render time (compared to Sony AVC) – which I guess is the better price to pay, to ensure compatability.

I could actually use dnxhd, as when I tested it, the render time was comparable to Sony AVC (around 1:1 with no effects, 1:2 with effects) Sorry, if I got my ratio’s wrong – hopefully they make sense. But I’ll have to double check that.

I’ll have to check out Wayne’s suggestion for frame serving, as well.

Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Thanks for the response John, I will give that a try a little later tonight.

Would you still recommend adding noise to the cleaned footage? I tried it last night, by adding ‘Sony Add Noise’ monochromatic, and set to 0.025 – this seemed a little too harsh, I adjusted it to 0.004 the noise wasn’t noticeable – but not sure if it does much at that low level.

Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Sorry for the confusion! I scrolled down, on Graham’s link and under NLE it only says Sony Vegas 13. Good to hear that it does work on Vegas 12.

Hopefully my other information still holds up, if Roger does use new blue fx’s Titler, I’m more than happy to find the fix – if you experience and comparability issues.

Again, sorry for posting wrong info. Best, Rob

[Rob Clapham]

Hi,

I have no experience, with Vegas 10 – so I couldn’t say if that’s possible. Maybe someone else has a better idea?

But, I do know of a fairly cheap solution. You could use a program called ‘Reaper’ https://www.reaper.fm/ it’s not very expensive, $60 for a discounted license.

It’s the software I use when I do a live stream. You can add various effects like noise cancellation, eq, compressor etc. – here is a useful tutorial if you’re interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ROArGlpG4 This is how to set it up for use with OBS (a video streaming program) I’m sure it would work with other programs. If you are using a USB mic, you would also need to use ‘Virtual Audio Cable’ mentioned in the tutorial. I think you could skip that step if you’re using a USB mixer, but I don’t have experience with that.

Sorry, if this isn’t much help. Hopefully someone will get back to you, regarding using Vegas 10.

Best, Rob