Sorry, but no luck. I have tried so many things my mind is spinning. The transition seems to grab the first frame of the incomming clip before the page turns and nothing seems to change it. I’m starting to think there might be a problem with the transition generator but it doesn’t do it all the time. I transition to and from the upper layer which seems to be the only way it will sork to begin with. I tried to but the clips together and it wouldn’t take it and would default to a 9 frame transition. RM