[Richard Herd]

That was classic!

[Richard Herd]

[Oliver Peters] “looking at the visual display of the entire clip without playing or scrubbing”

And that’s the gist of it, knowing whether the metadata was right or wrong in a glance and not having to playback.

[Richard Herd]

No problem. I’ve read it dozens of times and still find new and compelling information every single time. Here’s more of the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqq8QKMmtYg

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[Richard Herd]

[Walter Soyka] “I think the bigger problem is not so much something tagged wrongly versus something wrongly untagged.”

You can start a novel with that sentence.

Also the skimmer/icon view ought not be overlooked as a kind-of metadata. Our belief that Shot-A is a Close Up is justified based on inductive generalizing. At that moment it can be decided as “wrongly tagged” or “tagged wrongly.” Quick accurate access to the picture (skimmer/icon view) prevents that bigger problem. I can’t recall if Legend could do a skimmer/icon view, and I don’t know if Avid does either.

EDIT: Yes Legend had a kind-of skimmer view with the thumbnail, which could be skimmed to find which image would best represent that shot.

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[Jeremy Garchow] “I tried to like Prelude, but I didn’t prefer the marker ranges and subclips. It was a personal preference. They were hard to read and understand, especially once the edit started. They seemed a lot more permanent than tags, even though you could modify them whenever you needed, and a lot of it boiled down to interface for me. I just didn’t prefer the marker based interface, just like I didn’t really prefer subclips in FCP Legend.”

Prelude is more akin to Legend’s “Log and Transfer” window. But that logging of metadata stuffs is weak sauce, thin and watery, and that is a metadata metaphor. The workflow I tried to use was a series of 8 commercials (4 in English, 4 in Spanish), for a grocery store pitching its ingredients and the how-to of a recipe. It was great campaign. I was the guy who got the mountain of footage, and the chef was not a professional actor, so there were very many takes to wade through and off-script, ad-libs, and on-set rewrites. True editing: bring order to the pile of footage. I tried to use the metadata stuff in Prelude, by recipe name and corresponding script. And then I’d have all these nifty subclips. It really did not work at all, because the information I typed into Prelude did not show up in the clips unless I opened the clips and looked at the markers, the GUI problem. (CS6, fyi).

I am basically committed to Adobe (although I love X too) (and will continue to argue with accounting for CC). Having said that, I hope Prelude can include a true metatagging/keywording interface.

And now having said that I’ll give Prelude another try.

One more thing: Audio from Premiere to Audition is lame lame lame because when the audio goes from Premiere to Audition, the media is transcoded and the timecode is re-written to where ever it is in the Premiere time line. This means conforming any picture changes is virtually impossible, and I literally have to use old-school metadata: paper and pen. This hopefully has been fixed in CC. And changing audio output settings (ergo omf) is simply ridiculous: new sequence, change audio settings, copypasta. Roles win for this every time. There is no reason this cannot be done in Premiere via the mixer interface: I need a little button [export stems], and then whatever name they are is what they are named. When someone else (say in ProTools) opens it up, they see exactly what my mixer is. … and now I’m writing that as feature request

[Richard Herd]

[tony west] ““What I love about Final Cut Pro X is that it allowed me to be involved with, and in control of, every aspect of making our film.””

That quote jumped out at me too.

[tony west] “What does that statement mean to you?”

Is the editor a monkey on the keyboard, a “human user interface” that the director controls instead of a keyboard?

[Richard Herd]

To interlope quickly, this is the a great article: https://library.creativecow.net/galt_john/John_Galt_2K_4K_Truth_About_Pixels/1

[Richard Herd]

Will someone do something like that for audio Roles Inspector? Please. Anyone?

[Richard Herd]

They only work for selected tracks, so select them on the left hand side.

[Richard Herd]

[Charlie Austin] “iMovie is FCP X Lite. ;”

Richie likes it. He really does!