Philipp Hampl
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Good thought – but: Premiere pro and the media Encoder can NOT handle more than one Mono Audio Track! that is such a shame- only stereo or single mono. So you end up losing 3 mono tracks (with xdcam hd 422) or get a nice stereo-mix of your single audio tracks.
And ppr really is much faster with the transcoding- but we cannot use it..
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We were having hardcore problems ourselves, using xdcam hd 422. Transcoding to prores solved most of them and is absolutely recommended!! We used the media manager as we were pretty much into the film when we decided to move to prores (and we have approx 5000 clips (3,5 tb of material. So transcoding has also been a question of available diskspace.)
Please keep us updated if you find any software that is able to straight transcode during copying to disk. the best way would be, if you could tell for example sony’s transfer tool to not just wrapp it but also transcode it. Has nobody yet programmed such an app somewhere in the wide world? I’d buy it!! -
Have you tried Sequence settings: prores (not hq), sequence rendering prores and 8bit.
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I have a similar issue: everytime I start the project there are 4 clips that need to to be reconnected. Saving won’t change anything, next time I open the project those files are missing again.
Even worse: when I try to open a auto saved version after a crash, all clips a offline! That makes autosaving useless (this project contains almost 4500 clips).Any clues?
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Well, it may all be right, but it nevertheles makes no difference, as: it still does not work, does it? Working with prp on a Mac you really need to get all the power you can get. I bought the extra ram (32gb), I bought the nvidia quatro 4000 to accelerate what really went very slow and itchy. (see adobe forum for details in timeline slowliness). I did all that was suggested to find out that the acceleration called mercury engine would only work with codecs other then those that would enable my I/o card (Blackmagic) to monitor the progamm to external monitors?! Together they do not work, so It makes no difference why and who’s to blame, as any pro needs to have a look on a external monitor, especially with interlaced formats. Go ahead and blame the way computers work and the third party companys, it still falls back on adobe. It just does not work!
Are there plans to change that?
And: what will you do about the audio limitations (export or transcoding a single mono track or stereo, that’s it, and that’s just not enough)?
You want the switchers from fcp? Then go and get the stuff running which they need to get their business running. Because if adobe will not, the switcher will notice that they also could have just switched to fcpx. It has the very same limitations in regards to external monitoring and audio tracks (ok, fcpx is in this regard even more limited).
I like premiere pro, but as I said: it’s not ready. -
Come on, David. If you do not want to understand, then, well give it one more try… And it is of course no firewire or dv kind of workflow we talk about here. So please just stay reasonable.
And If you still are so sure that this problem does not occure, just try this:
transcode a xdcam hd 422 clip (including 4 audio tracks) from its mpeg status to apple prores in the adobe media encoder, what will you end up with?
Well, you´ll have the choice between: a single mono, stereo or 5.1.
What will you choose, if you need all of those 4 tracks of audio?And the same problem you´ll end up when you want to export your programm out of prp, e.g. as a xdcam HD 422 file that you´ll need for copying to disk via the U1 (as theres no direct way out of prp to do so): what will you choose, as the tv-station allways wants an unmixed, international master ?
Prp and the Media Encoder just don´t offer any other settings than: mono, stereo or 5.1. Thats all, and that´s poor.
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@david: never had to edit to tape an unmixed master? track 1 interview tack 2 atmo track 3+4 stereo mix music?!!
With xdcam HD 422 it´s up to 8 tracks.And: for the external monitoring issue: see adobe premier Pro Forum at adobe´s webside.
Both issues (audio and external monitoring) are known and are being well discussed there.
Have a peek:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/3988746#3988746“24.10.2011 19:23 (in response to bruvinsk)
Re: TV Previewing in Adobe Premiere CS5.5
Everybody has the same problem, and there is no fix. It’s just the way it is. Voice your opinion here: Adobe Feature Request/Bug Report Form”I had been testing prp 5.5 thoroughly over a periond of 4 weeks and I like it, but as I mentioned allready someplace: it´s not ready, yet.
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And watch out for the most unbelievable “feature” of those that need to be improved: there is no way, that you export a clean feed (audio unmixed) version of your program! There is just: a single mono, stereo or 5.1. That’s it! Response from adobe: for the web there’s no need to export other. Ok, so pros (tv e.g.) were not been asked?
The only workaround: export every single track (including video) to: final cut! And that was where I just came from. And now have returned to.
Don’t get me wrong: I like premiere pro, and surely hope cs 6 will solve the problems (e.g no external monitoring when working with codecs other than those which are cuda-supported! That means: whether monitoring or mercury engine – and as prp is a resource eating monster you need the extra speed -at least on a Mac!!); but untill that: not “pro” enough. -
Well, maybe that would work – go ahead and give it a try, you can download the production suit and work with it for 30 days.
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Forget about it. Prp is a resource eating machine. And: no cuda support with your GPU (you have no nvidia on board).