[Peter Groom]

Dont think Ive ever seen or heard of any way of mapping this type of multi function to any 1 key (ie V1 A1 A2 to 1 keystroke)
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

Hi – I agree, but I was working on the presumption that, as were having this discussion at all, jam syncing timecode to cameras and ref video prob isnt on the cards.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

Hi
Its not the lack of a good sync point that is important but a video platforms inability to move fine adjustmnets than just + or – 1 frame at a time. Pro Tools alows me to nudge down to the sample which is 1/ 48000th of a second if need be.
When 2 cameras start recording on a press of a button, the actual moment of start on each will differ. This can mean that cam 1 started some part of a frame earlier than camera 2. A NLE isnt capable of slipping 1 to the eother by any less than 1 frame, so the offset caused by the actual moment of start may be up to a frame. which wehn you open the faders can result in a “metallic” sound (its actually an echo, but is much smaller than we can hears as an echo.

Hope this explains.
NB By syncing much more accurately in pro tools, then exporting a new file back into my avid, i was able to nudge the audio, relative to the other camera by miniscule amounts (way less than a frame) to give a solid sounding sync.

Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

Ok
My problem I see with this is that the 2camcorders can’t be started synchronously so will not be sync able exactly.
You will find there’s an issue with this when you try to mix. There will always be up to a frame difference between the tracks.
I had this last week with a split track of a shoot of an event where 2 cameras had 4 mics sep sound of the same scene.
When synced in avid there was a metallic phasing sound, as they were 1/4 frame out’
so I took an omf to protools, nudge them around by sample increments and sync them exactly then put them back to avid.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

Ok so if your mac isnt too old / slow
youve plenty ram
your hard drives are external

What type of media are you running? Is it all imported or transcoded to avids mxf folder structure or are you ama linking?

Does it behave the same way on a variety of media types?

Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

HI
Ok 2 things here.

1) For me, as a dubbing mixer who receives and records many voice overs for tv, Id be horrified if i thought that any vo was applying any compression whatsoever. I specifically ask and get them to remove any processing. I dont see it as your job to make the sound punchy etc etc. Just say the words we supply the way we supply them and perform as directed. ILL take care of the mix issues.

2) I think your clue is in “After my first syllable I lose those highs” That suggests that your threshold has got moved relative to the audio signal level, and that the fast attack is grabbing it and applying gain reduction (which is exactly what compression does)
Try backing off the attack time a bit and adjusting the threshold to see if you can lose the rapm effect youre hearing.
Youre sure youve nothing else thats got switched in by mistake, such as a gate or expander??

Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

HI
Im not really up to speed on the tech issues with macs, but how much ram do you have (always more is best) and are you running the os and pt on the Mac hd and keeping all media files on other non OS drives.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

Hi
No
My understanding is that MC 7 “stacks” audio effects on the mixer fader strip in the same way as Pro tools does, ie you have a certain amount of sends or insert points on any fader strip, and that is that.
I think its 5 on MC7 from memory.
Pro tools naturally has a lot more but its an audio application.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

Hi
Are you able to post a bit to see if it can be helped?
peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer

[Peter Groom]

HI
I sympathise with your annoyance – I even slightly agree, but I tend to think that its best to remember that MC is a video edit platform, not a pro sound tool.

Equally Pro Tools has some but limited video editing facilities within, but to an avid editor its functionality would seem to be so limited as to be useless.

I find mc’s limitations on the audio side frustrating too and would like far stronger pro tools like automation features, but that is why they have pro tools i guess. Its even more frustrating for me as Im a dubbing mixer in a full on Pro dubbing studio with a big PT rig and desk. I go looking for high end tools like im used to at work, when editing at home and get annoyed too.

Post Production Dubbing Mixer