[Peter Berthet]

its generally good practice to maintain your source file quality, so obviously your editing in HDV which is fine.

for SD-DVDs its just a simple process from adobe of dumping out to a DV avi or DV MOV and bringing that file into your favourite authoring software, alternatively (i suggest avi’s or mov because encore which we use has a great transcode function)

but anyway, the other export method you could use is dumping straight to mpeg2 for dvd authoring, pros are that you dont need to transcode a second time, cons (in the case of encore anyway) are that you may not get the optimal image quality for your dvd, as encore dynamically transcodes your media based on available dvd space and generally gives a better result than a set bitrate encode

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

tis indeed 🙂

id love to be able to pin down the cause, but it seems premiere just hates me when i give it really complex work

looks like a memory issue going by task manager, so maybe we’ll have to feed the beast some more RAM to keep it happy

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

heh actually i already did Dave 🙂

its a big project unfortunately.. and a lot of the audio clips are coming off of video files . . it helped the load times a little (well 10 minutes less than the main timeline)

but its still a pain in the arse!

oh well 🙂

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

unfortunately i believe its export only

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

ahh premiere, the program we love to hate

got one omf out, went to do the second one and premieres saying its outta memory.

judging from the task manager i suspect theres a bigass memory leak in the omf exporter at worst, at best its just not handing the ram back to the system when its done with it which means

close project,
reopen project, wait 20 minutes for project to load (coffee and smoke)
export OMF.
close project . . .

ahhh the joys of exporting

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

workarounds workarounds… its finally going out in 20 minute pieces . . .

and yeah

the AAF is a weird one. . . i dunno where it is but its not where adobe says it is

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

were using blackmagic hardware, its a blackmagic project

again, its not about performance while editing, its excrutiating load times and export failures

the same project we’re working on just loaded up in FCP on a slower machine in about 30 seconds

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

dave unfortunately theres a big hole in the package that affects long form editors, not really sure what it is.

but ive posted about it previously here : https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/890834

adobe will deny theres an issue, and im starting to think they really dont have any idea about it

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

Vince, and anyone else who cares to challenge the notion that the software is crap.

Im 100% sure none of you are doing long-form edits, if you read some of the other entries from other editors who HAVE experienced these problems the common thread is that theyre working on large scale, complex projects.

Premiere is in its element when doing short simple jobs, i wont contest that.
But once you get an hour and a half project running with hundreds (perhaps thousands) of edits and over 400 pieces of media, it brings PPRO to its knees. Simply because, i dont believe they ever intended or tested the software for this purpose.

Thankfully, this time there was no solid deadline for the job, but what happens in the future ?

Id rather not take that chance, unless Adobe can do a serious overhaul of the way the software handles longform jobs.

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[Peter Berthet]

the crashing really isnt the source of my problems, its more the time consumption were getting on loading and exporting projects, the machine right now is exporting a fairly large file for a client, so if it bombs again ill be able to provide the error message

and vince, this isnt OS bashing,
theres no excuse for crap software being sold as ‘professional’

you dont buy tools that are broken, and youd certainly be upset if you bought tools that you were told were new and higher quality, only to find out theyre rusty and generally useless

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia