Peter Antoinetti
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Thank you again Santanu,
documentary festivals requirements for me to submit in general could be categorized into 3 roughly :
1- preview copy for pre-selection judging committee: 1080p 4-7 mbps
2a - festival show copy: 1080p 1080p 10-25 mbps or
2b - festival show copy for few fests: 4K with higher mbpsConsidering the requirements for me for the festivals above
-What specific output settings I should have?
– If ProRes, DNxHD and 4K footage (Sony M2T format) ok, what specific variations of ProRes, DNxHD, (Sony M2T format) ?all the best
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by Santanu Bhattacharjee
on Apr 22, 2020
“output settings I should have?”you can go with ProRes or DNxHD
It’s for different documentary festivals with different requirements.
In general could be categorized into 3 rough requirements :– preview copy: 1080p 6-7 mbps
– festival show copy: 1080p 1080p 10-25 mbps or
– 4K with higher mbpswould ProRes or DNxHD ok, and or any other spesific variations of ProRes or DNxHD?
“SPECS”
similar lockdown restrictions worldwide” I am able to render 4K footage (Sony M2T format) easily with similar specs.”
Would that be advisable for me too?
“Use a common free PC clean up software like Ccleaner This also clears up the registry.
have minimum apps on my PC.
Removed most startup apps”same here, I use ccleaner as well as I recommend Ace Utilities and PrivaZer
I also removed most startup apps, including virus scanners and security soft-wares -after disconnecting off the net during editing or rendering -
“h- bit-rate using a good codec. (not h264)”
– – what do you advice / what output settings I should have?
” PC specs?”
– – pretty poor nowadays I should say:
13 inch ASUS laptop
Windows 10 (1903) do not want to update it further
I had slowness after updating, so I changed it back to 1903)
i7 -6500U
2.50 Ghz 2.59 GHz
8 GB RAM
250GB SSD -
Thank you indeed Santanu,
I’m just sorting out the clips and could not get back to you as my feedback earlier today.Here’s the latest:
“by Santanu Bhattacharjee
on Apr 20, 2020
It all depends on the duration of your sequence and how complex the timeline is. If I were to anyway render complex, busy timelines, I would rather render 4K hi-quality once. Later take the rendered 4K output and simply convert to lower resolutions in Adobe media encoder, never come back to premiere.”That’s an excellent idea to get 4K then reduce it when needed later on.
I may have to sleep on it since I don’t have access to the fast pc at present.One question on Adobe media encoder:
Does that still need the source files intact to reduce it or simply reduce the size of earlier output without the source files?———————————
“”by Santanu Bhattacharjee
I was wondering why it is taking longer to render out to 4K and heating up to 89C and less time for 1080p output when tested a 3-4 min test output?any further advice please?”
There could be other factors such as –
1. footage on a network drive.
2. There are more unmatched dimension footage in the sequence that you have stretched than native 4k ones.
3. 4K resolution effects or color grading…Let me further clarify that :
Let’s say
– render out to 4K (heat up to 89C and takes longer to render out)
– with the same clips, render out to 1080p (heats up not as high as 89C and rendering takes not as long)I thought I confuse you earlier as it was not as clear as now hopefully.
Does that change you advice please?
All the best
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“2. If you have bigger dimension footage than your sequence, you gain nothing in terms of system performance, unless you work on proxies.”
one more thing:
I aim to send this documentary to several festivals. So most ask 1080p and some ask 4K
So I initially need 1080p, amd later on 4K versions -
Santanu Bhattacharjee
on Apr 20, 2020
“Rendering to a smaller dimension takes more PC power than to the same dimension of the sequence. Since the CPU has to do more number crunching in scaling down the footage and all other ingredients, anti-alias them accordingly, etc…”
Therefore, you will observe that rendering to a 4K does in lesser time than lower formats.”— Very important point, I did not know that. Thank you for that.
— I NOW have another point to decide.My current laptop, I thought cannot handle 4K output. It actually takes longer to render out to 4K in my 3-4 min rendered test YESTERDAY
I thought I could get 1080p at my laptop (windows i7 8gb ram asus) easier without heating up, then I could have a 4K output at a faster pc later on.
I was wondering why it is taking longer to render out to 4K and heating up to 89C and less time for 1080p output when tested a 3-4 min test output?
any further advice please?
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“Santanu Bhattacharjee
on Apr 20, 2020
it is always better to have your sequence to the largest dimension of the various footage you have. you can always deliver to a lower format without losing quality ever. The fps changing during delivery though may cause some problems of sync or frame jumps.”Thank you Santanu,
I have decided to get the sequence to the largest dimension (4K) and will “set the frame size” of 1080p s onto 4K timeline and render out to 1080p initially. Then, without changing anything on the timeline, I’ll render out the same sequence to 4K when I get to a faster pc later onSo I’ll do what you advised I believe.
I appreciate your advice and advising the same as I just did which is a confirmation of my recent decision.
I am happy that yours match what I just did, hopefullyall the best
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” Jon Doughtie
on Apr 16, 2020
If it were me, I’d try setting up the sequence to what I need for my final deliverable. That is, if I need a 1080i 29.97 finished product, that’s the sequence I’d create and work from there.”Thank you Jon,
Finished product will be 1080p as well as 4K
So I tested 4 min output on 1080p and 4K timeline setting rendering to 1080p
The result byte size was pretty similar
And I will have 4K timeline setting rendering to 1080p for the time-being and render out to a 4K output later on in a faster pc -
No one to advice please?