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  • Premiere Pro CC 2018 rendering options please?

    Posted by Peter Antoinetti on April 14, 2020 at 2:22 pm

    Dear Friends

    Would you Please Help Me to pick the best editing question – premiere pro cc 2018 and why?

    I have 3 different types of clips FROM 4 different cameras to be used for a documentary:

    – 4K clips(Lumix)
    – 1080p clips (Sanyo) and 2 different mobile phones)
    – 1440×1080 clips from an old camera)

    Option 1:
    set the premiere pro CC 2018
    (cannot use any later version of premiere because of one of the codecs from one of the old camera clips not supported)

    project settings: 4K Lumix clips
    and add all the other 1080p and 1440×1080 clips with the same 4K settings
    (set to frame size to 4K)
    output: 1080 at present (May use 4K output later on when I have access to the faster pc)

    option 2:
    project settings: 1080p settings
    and 1440×1080 clips – -set to frame size to (1080p)
    add the 4K clips -set to frame size (1080p)
    output: 1080p at present (May use 4K output later on when I have access to the faster pc)

    Question 1: Do the output quality differ at all in option 1 and option 2?
    Question 2: is option 1 or option 2 less power needy for a slow pc when rendering out?
    Question 3: What other differences are there when picking option 1 or option 2?
    Question 4: Which option would you choose and why?
    Question 5 : pros and cons of each method or any better suggestions please?

    Peter Antoinetti replied 6 years ago 4 Members · 20 Replies
  • 20 Replies
  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 15, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    No one to advice please?

  • Jon Doughtie

    April 16, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    If it were me, I’d try setting up the sequence to what I need for my final deliverable. That is, if I need a 1080i 29.97 finished product, that’s the sequence I’d create and work from there.

    That’s just me.

    System:
    Dell Precision T7600 (x2)
    Win 7 64-bit
    32GB RAM
    Adobe CC 2017.1 (as of 8/2017)
    256GB SSD system drive
    4 internal media drives RAID 5
    Typically cutting short form from UHD MP4, HD MP4, and HD P2 MXF.

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 20, 2020 at 6:37 am

    it is always better to have your sequence to the largest dimension of the various footage you have. you can always deliver to a lower format without losing quality ever. The fps changing during delivery though may cause some problems of sync or frame jumps.

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 20, 2020 at 12:06 pm

    ” Jon Doughtie
    on Apr 16, 2020
    If it were me, I’d try setting up the sequence to what I need for my final deliverable. That is, if I need a 1080i 29.97 finished product, that’s the sequence I’d create and work from there.”

    Thank you Jon,
    Finished product will be 1080p as well as 4K
    So I tested 4 min output on 1080p and 4K timeline setting rendering to 1080p
    The result byte size was pretty similar
    And I will have 4K timeline setting rendering to 1080p for the time-being and render out to a 4K output later on in a faster pc

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 20, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    “Santanu Bhattacharjee
    on Apr 20, 2020
    it is always better to have your sequence to the largest dimension of the various footage you have. you can always deliver to a lower format without losing quality ever. The fps changing during delivery though may cause some problems of sync or frame jumps.”

    Thank you Santanu,
    I have decided to get the sequence to the largest dimension (4K) and will “set the frame size” of 1080p s onto 4K timeline and render out to 1080p initially. Then, without changing anything on the timeline, I’ll render out the same sequence to 4K when I get to a faster pc later on

    So I’ll do what you advised I believe.

    I appreciate your advice and advising the same as I just did which is a confirmation of my recent decision.
    I am happy that yours match what I just did, hopefully

    all the best

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 20, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Through my experience, I generally don’t go by setting sequence to delivery formats. Reasons –

    1. These days clients often ask for social media formats. Once I made a piece with lowly resolution and when the client changed his mind to a higher version, I had a lot of rework.

    2. If you have bigger dimension footage than your sequence, you gain nothing in terms of system performance, unless you work on proxies.

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 20, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    Thanks. And all the best.

    “Then, without changing anything on the timeline, I’ll render out the same sequence to 4K when I get to a faster pc later on”

    Rendering to a smaller dimension takes more PC power than to the same dimension of the sequence. Since the CPU has to do more number crunching in scaling down the footage and all other ingredients, anti-alias them accordingly, etc…

    Therefore, you will observe that rendering to a 4K does in lesser time than lower formats.

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 20, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    Santanu Bhattacharjee
    on Apr 20, 2020
    “Rendering to a smaller dimension takes more PC power than to the same dimension of the sequence. Since the CPU has to do more number crunching in scaling down the footage and all other ingredients, anti-alias them accordingly, etc…”
    Therefore, you will observe that rendering to a 4K does in lesser time than lower formats.”

    — Very important point, I did not know that. Thank you for that.
    — I NOW have another point to decide.

    My current laptop, I thought cannot handle 4K output. It actually takes longer to render out to 4K in my 3-4 min rendered test YESTERDAY

    I thought I could get 1080p at my laptop (windows i7 8gb ram asus) easier without heating up, then I could have a 4K output at a faster pc later on.

    I was wondering why it is taking longer to render out to 4K and heating up to 89C and less time for 1080p output when tested a 3-4 min test output?

    any further advice please?

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 20, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    “2. If you have bigger dimension footage than your sequence, you gain nothing in terms of system performance, unless you work on proxies.”

    one more thing:

    I aim to send this documentary to several festivals. So most ask 1080p and some ask 4K
    So I initially need 1080p, amd later on 4K versions

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 20, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    It all depends on the duration of your sequence and how complex the timeline is. If I were to anyway render complex, busy timelines, I would rather render 4K hi-quality once. Later take the rendered 4K output and simply convert to lower resolutions in Adobe media encoder, never come back to premiere.

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

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