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Activity Forums Adobe Premiere Pro Premiere Pro CC 2018 rendering options please?

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 20, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    “I was wondering why it is taking longer to render out to 4K and heating up to 89C and less time for 1080p output when tested a 3-4 min test output?

    any further advice please?”

    There could be other factors such as –
    1. footage on a network drive.
    2. There are more unmatched dimension footage in the sequence that you have stretched than native 4k ones.
    3. 4K resolution effects or color grading…

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 21, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    Thank you indeed Santanu,
    I’m just sorting out the clips and could not get back to you as my feedback earlier today.

    Here’s the latest:

    “by Santanu Bhattacharjee
    on Apr 20, 2020
    It all depends on the duration of your sequence and how complex the timeline is. If I were to anyway render complex, busy timelines, I would rather render 4K hi-quality once. Later take the rendered 4K output and simply convert to lower resolutions in Adobe media encoder, never come back to premiere.”

    That’s an excellent idea to get 4K then reduce it when needed later on.
    I may have to sleep on it since I don’t have access to the fast pc at present.

    One question on Adobe media encoder:
    Does that still need the source files intact to reduce it or simply reduce the size of earlier output without the source files?

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    “”by Santanu Bhattacharjee
    I was wondering why it is taking longer to render out to 4K and heating up to 89C and less time for 1080p output when tested a 3-4 min test output?

    any further advice please?”

    There could be other factors such as –
    1. footage on a network drive.
    2. There are more unmatched dimension footage in the sequence that you have stretched than native 4k ones.
    3. 4K resolution effects or color grading…

    Let me further clarify that :
    Let’s say
    – render out to 4K (heat up to 89C and takes longer to render out)
    – with the same clips, render out to 1080p (heats up not as high as 89C and rendering takes not as long)

    I thought I confuse you earlier as it was not as clear as now hopefully.

    Does that change you advice please?

    All the best

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 21, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    [Peter Antoinetti] “One question on Adobe media encoder:
    Does that still need the source files intact to reduce it or simply reduce the size of earlier output without the source files?”

    Not at all. I don’t mean you take the sequence back into AME. You should take the output file. It has to reduce only the output generated for the first time. However, you should be careful to generate a hi-quality, h- bit-rate using a good codec. (not h264). Because further encoding will deteriorate the quality further. But using a hi-quality output as input will not lose much on quality because any way you are reducing the dimensions, that will reduce recompression artifacts.

    [Peter Antoinetti] “Let me further clarify that :
    Let’s say
    – render out to 4K (heat up to 89C and takes longer to render out)
    – with the same clips, render out to 1080p (heats up not as high as 89C and rendering takes not as long)

    I thought I confuse you earlier as it was not as clear as now hopefully.”

    What are your PC specs, please?

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 21, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    “h- bit-rate using a good codec. (not h264)”

    – – what do you advice / what output settings I should have?

    ” PC specs?”

    – – pretty poor nowadays I should say:
    13 inch ASUS laptop
    Windows 10 (1903) do not want to update it further
    I had slowness after updating, so I changed it back to 1903)
    i7 -6500U
    2.50 Ghz 2.59 GHz
    8 GB RAM
    250GB SSD

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 22, 2020 at 8:01 am

    [Peter Antoinetti] “- – what do you advice / what output settings I should have?”

    This depends on where your final deliverables are going. Higher the bitrate, merrier it is. If it’s for broadcast, use uncompressed. But that will consume a huge amount of disk space. But if it is a long-form video, you can go with ProRes or DNxHD.

    [Peter Antoinetti] “13 inch ASUS laptop
    Windows 10 (1903) do not want to update it further
    I had slowness after updating, so I changed it back to 1903)
    i7 -6500U
    2.50 Ghz 2.59 GHz
    8 GB RAM
    250GB SSD”

    These days I am working on a laptop with similar specs. cannot go to my studio that is hardly a kilometer from my home due to lockdown restrictions.

    But then I guess, I am able to render 4K footage (Sony M2T format) easily with similar specs. All I did was kept footage drive separate from OS and Cache. I installed a driver booster software that updates all hardware drivers. Use a common free PC clean up software like Ccleaner that is the light on the system and clears all unnecessary temp files in all nooks and corners of the system. This also clears up the registry. I also have minimum apps on my PC. Removed most startup apps.

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Tero Ahlfors

    April 22, 2020 at 9:41 am

    [Santanu Bhattacharjee] ” If it’s for broadcast, use uncompressed.”

    No. If it’s for any kind of delivery to some other company you’ll need to ask for their delivery specs.

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 22, 2020 at 10:18 am

    by Santanu Bhattacharjee
    on Apr 22, 2020
    “output settings I should have?”

    you can go with ProRes or DNxHD

    It’s for different documentary festivals with different requirements.
    In general could be categorized into 3 rough requirements :

    – preview copy: 1080p 6-7 mbps
    – festival show copy: 1080p 1080p 10-25 mbps or
    – 4K with higher mbps

    would ProRes or DNxHD ok, and or any other spesific variations of ProRes or DNxHD?

    “SPECS”
    similar lockdown restrictions worldwide

    ” I am able to render 4K footage (Sony M2T format) easily with similar specs.”

    Would that be advisable for me too?

    “Use a common free PC clean up software like Ccleaner This also clears up the registry.
    have minimum apps on my PC.
    Removed most startup apps”

    same here, I use ccleaner as well as I recommend Ace Utilities and PrivaZer
    I also removed most startup apps, including virus scanners and security soft-wares -after disconnecting off the net during editing or rendering

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 23, 2020 at 8:34 am

    Thank you again Santanu,

    documentary festivals requirements for me to submit in general could be categorized into 3 roughly :
    1- preview copy for pre-selection judging committee: 1080p 4-7 mbps
    2a - festival show copy: 1080p 1080p 10-25 mbps or
    2b - festival show copy for few fests: 4K with higher mbps

    Considering the requirements for me for the festivals above
    -What specific output settings I should have?
    – If ProRes, DNxHD and 4K footage (Sony M2T format) ok, what specific variations of ProRes, DNxHD, (Sony M2T format) ?

    all the best

    antoinetti@gmail.com

    antoinetti@gmail.com

  • Santanu Bhattacharjee

    April 23, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    [Peter Antoinetti] “Considering the requirements for me for the festivals above
    -What specific output settings I should have?
    – If ProRes, DNxHD and 4K footage (Sony M2T format) ok, what specific variations of ProRes, DNxHD, (Sony M2T format) ?

    Basically, you need a format that is re-editable.

    Santanu Productions, Mumbai
    The Swiss Army Knife for All Your Creative Needs

  • Peter Antoinetti

    April 23, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    I appreciate your help very much.
    all the best

    antoinetti@gmail.com

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