[Paul Boshoff]

Hi Mads

You Assume correct yes. My final delivery to the client is for broadcast and the specs need to be:

1920×1080 HD
Codec: XDCAM 50 4:2:2
Bit Rate: 50
Wrapper: MXF
Frame Rate: 25

Which I have been exporting a range of other projects to them over the years so at least I know that part of the workflow works fine.

Your note on my system specs was my first fear too, but I’m working on a few other projects with heavier RAW footage which indicates that shouldn’t be the problem. Not to mention that the problem only starts when I have the two troublesome scenes open in the timeline view. So that is somewhat of a relief (no expensive upgrades needed just yet.)

I like your suggestion of editing these scenes in separate timelines to at least allow me to edit the rest without the problem.

Thank you for clarifying the whole “fields” situation. I’m not going to bend my head about it as it was shot as Progressive and like you suggest, there are workarounds that will do just fine come final export.

One more thing I learned recently (never too late to learn) is to change “Preview File Format” in the Sequence Settings from Quicktime to I-Frame Only MPEG to help ease the load of playing back a variety of different file types.

I’ve wrestled through the first episode and all its troubles for now and am starting with the second today. I’ve set up the project afresh with all of your insights and the rest I’ve mentioned and will see how it goes. There are four episodes in total, so though I hope everything goes fine from E02, I’m sure by E04 I will have it figured out. If not, I will come back here and knock on your door again.

Thanks again for all your help.

Warm regards
Paul

[Paul Boshoff]

Hi Mads

Thanks for taking the time to help out.

The footage came from camera. Specifically three Fuji Cameras (Xh2, Xh1 and a xt4).

Excuse me if my response comes across as too detailed, but I’d rather give too much information than too little.

I don’t believe the 50fps footage was shot in slow motion no. They all have sound with them, however, when I interpret the 50fps footage to assume a 25fps frame rate it does play back in slow motion, I then speed the clips up to 200% to compensate, but doesn’t seem to help the problem.

I have modified all the clips to match that of the sequence (Rec.706 not Rec.709 (NTSC)) but sadly this has also not yielded any results.

The clip duration you bring up was my mistake. I posted the properties of the 50fps clip from the timeline instead of the source code so it was the duration of the clip used, not the entire clip. I’ve checked though, and that is the only difference between the properties from the clip in the timeline and the project media bin.

Would it be possible for the project to have gotten slower and slower over time as a result of copying and editing footage from and between different fps sequences into the main sequence?
And if so, would there be any issues if I edited the whole thing in 50fps sequences only but did a final export as 25fps? I ask as the original project file I received from the client containing all the raw footage sorted into sequences for each scene were all 50fps sequences (even though containing 25 and 50fps footage) and seemed to run smoothly. But the deeper I got into the editing process, the slower the scene in question made the project.

Final thought is that I’ve looked at all the sequences settings and the one with the problem had a different “Fields” selected. The ones without issues are set to “No Fields (Progressive Scan)” while the problematic one was set to “Upper Field First”. This didn’t make much of a difference either. A question on this (seems silly but need to make sure), if I edit in a “Progressive Scan” sequence and export as “Upper First”, could it cause any problems with the final export? The channel I’m delivering to insists on “Upper First”.

Thanks again for your time and advice, but it seems the search continues.

Regards

Paul

[Paul Boshoff]

An additional thing I’ve noticed is that some of the clips don’t show through edits while others do. Sometimes it is a 50fps clip, other times a 25fps clip so if there is a pattern here, I can’t see it.

[Paul Boshoff]

Hi John

I don’t know if you’ve received an answer on this yet or resolved it yourself, but I’ve just discovered the problem. It seems you cant send a sequence to PluralEyes 4 if the sequence name has a “/” in it. I don’t know which special characters are allowed and which aren’t, not getting any trouble with a “-“, but yeah, if you find yourself running in to this problem again, just check your sequence name for special characters.

Cheers
Paul Boshoff

[Paul Boshoff]

Hello,
I am writing a research paper on the editing techniques and codes of Edward Dmytryk, Walter Murch and Richard Pepperman. I have found The 7 rules of Dmytryk as well as Murch’s Rule of Six, but I am having trouble locating any information on Richard Pepperman.

If anyone has any suggestions as to where I can find information on Pepperman (or any information on any of these three for that matter) it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Paul

[Paul Boshoff]

Thanks everyone for your imput. Helped me out a lot. All the best in your further endeavours.