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Patrick Ortman
April 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm in reply to: The PO has 10 hour days, client says…

It almost sounds like the contact’s boss is making it impossible. Even with a small crew you need to pay them overtime. Now, having that come out of your fee and you working about 40% longer… I don’t see that as a winner for you. What’s worse, if you give them all this free work that actually costs YOU money, you’re setting a really bad precedent for future work.

If they approved 10 hour days, and won’t pay overtime… you’re in a corner. As for me, this is what my pile of “f-you” money is for. I personally would tell the guy, “Look, if your boss is only going to approve 10 hour days, then that’s all we can work. Period.”

You may lose the client. You may not.

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 21, 2011 at 5:59 pm in reply to: The PO has 10 hour days, client says…

Walter’s right, especially with big corporate clients. But if this is a smaller client who you’ve done a lot of work for in the past and have a relationship with, I’ve successfully done the “Mark says the show must go on, but I wasn’t born yesterday” version.

This gets tricky when you’re working with larger crews, of course.

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 21, 2011 at 5:55 pm in reply to: Good Biz Advice

Definitely get the book! I got it off Amazon, used. It arrived last night and I’ve already gotten halfway through it.

It was clearly written awhile ago, but the advice opened my eyes a bit. Yeah, our overhead really is higher than one would think. Especially if you have a studio, staff, etc., like we do.

Thanks, Steve!

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 13, 2011 at 7:06 pm in reply to: Suszko singlehandedly kills the FlipCam

So, Mark’s like the Terminator? I have a list, too…

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 13, 2011 at 7:03 pm in reply to: Old School Meeting and Getting Involved

Awesome idea. But apparently the LA chapter’s “on a break”.

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 12, 2011 at 10:55 pm in reply to: The Flip is gone! Can I come out of my bunker now?

Words cannot express the feelings I have in my heart, reading that.

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 12, 2011 at 4:58 am in reply to: Look for the Union Label

And I thought it was stupid that we got paperwork about a spot we did two years ago… you win!

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 12, 2011 at 4:57 am in reply to: Good Biz Advice

Thanks, Steve! Headed to Amazon now…

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 12, 2011 at 4:56 am in reply to: I heard there were some companies demoing video stuff in Vegas while Apple is demoing FCP

Thanks!

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company
Patrick Ortman
April 8, 2011 at 9:14 pm in reply to: I heard there were some companies demoing video stuff in Vegas while Apple is demoing FCP

I’m not attending this year, as part of the worldwide protest movement to get Firefly back on the air…

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PatrickOrtman, Inc.
Los Angeles Digital Agency and Video Production Company

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