Norman Lang
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It seems odd that Adobe would name their product Creative Cloud, and then provide a useless cloud. You can’t upload large files. You can’t review video files. There is no delete button. The “Cloud” seems like the weakest link of the Creative Cloud. They seem to have the important stuff out of the way, like figuring out how to charge a monthly subcription through the cloud, but unfortunately that does not help us. It is a disappointment in the short term. I love the legacy products like CS6. Let’s hope that by the time a real CS7 would have come, that at least they get the Cloud to a point that it is usable. By the way, Vimeo and Dropbox are great solutions in the interim!
Norman Lang
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I moved from Premiere Pro as a primary editing solution when FCP6 was release. I would go back and forth between the two, but I gravitated towards FCP6 for multiple project support, Prores, reliability, elegant interface and smooth responsive timeline playback. I was relatively content. Before I got around to upgrading to FCP7, FCPX was released. That was a shattering experience for most of us. We lamented, complained and mostly felt abandoned. The boards became tiresome with all the whining and complaing about FCPX. But then dawn broke. There was an opportunity for some company to provide editors with a solution that respected their workflows; that didn’t jam a new fangled half thought-out beta paradigm down everyone’s throat with a “like it or lump it” attitude.
I am proud of the folks at the Adobe software engineering group for rising to the occasion. No smoke and mirrors. No hype. Just a really nice editing solution that takes the best of what Premiere Pro was and enhances it. And they took the opportunity to take some of the nicer features of Media Composer and FCP as well and elegantly blend those into the product as well.
I say it is a game changer. It will be interesting to watch the reaction of editors as they discover, or rediscover Adobe editing solutions.
Yes, thanks Adobe. Brilliant stuff. This latest effort represents a lot of hard work and a lot of hard listening. I for one appreciate it very much.
Norman Lang
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Worked. Big help. Thanks, I appreciate it. The question remains… Why, yet another workaround?!
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And I forgot to mention yet another “A”, Autodesk. It will be very interesting to see how they respond to this opportunity. They have very expensive software with very liberal trial periods for students and educators already. If they decide to get aggressive with pricing, there is a whole ‘nother thing thrown into the mix. It is the same point discussed above. It’s time to learn as much as we can about using these tools. There has never been a better time with hardware that is finally getting to where we need it and NLE makers that are eager to gain acceptance and market share… Well almost all of them.
Norman Lang
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I agree with Tom and much of what has been said in support of using Adobe CS5.5. Production Premium with Photoshop, Audition, Encore and more, complement Premiere and After Effects very nicely. Love the dynamic links.
I came up the hard way, struggling through Premiere from the beginning on a PC. I finally got tired of the klugey OS and unstable Premiere in favor of a dual quad MacPro and FCP2. Life was good. I loved FCP6, but still kept upgrading the Adobe Production Premium Suite on the Mac, mostly because of Photoshop, which I believe is the best program ever given to man. But I digress…
Like many of you I was thrilled to get my hands on the “new and improved” FCP X, only to be shocked to find that it really had nothing to do with Final Cut except the name and that it edits, kinda. I felt like somebody ran over my dog.
In the mean time I was still pretty excited about CS5.5. The Warp Stabilizer in After Effects alone is just killer. So as disappointed as I was about FCP X. I still had the means, through FCP6 and PPro CS 5.5 to do everything I needed and more.
So what did I do with FCP X, besides scream bloody murder and demand a refund? I started “playing” with it. I actually started to read the manual and watch some of the very cool tutorials out there, just in case I was being myopic. My conclusion is that FCP X will be cool as spit someday. It’s all about skimming and metadata. They have really built a nicely modified relational database for getting to and popping in and out of media so you can cut it. The tools are still not perfect. Version 1.0 software never is perfect. However, this is supposedly version 10.0. That’s another debate.
I think we need to know the new paradigm. No matter how much negative noise there is right now, this software is headed in the right direction IMHO.
I have done 3 or 4 small HDSLR projects with FCP X, that while very short and sweet, look very nice and were produced wicked fast.
I was also crazy enough to edit a 4 camera shoot of a live concert at the Hard Rock with 4 cameras, 5D,60D,7D and an XLH1 (SDI out to a Ki Pro). To my amazement it was really a dream after I got over the sporadic crashes and wrestling with understanding Storylines and Compound Clips. Self contained it is fine. Previously, I had put together a promo of the concert in FCP6 where I had clips from various tunes that needed to be synched with a 20 track ProTools file. For that I was able to export an OMF file. As we now know, no such luck with FCP X.
To be prepared for the future, you have to learn all the new stuff, even if it may fail to make it to prime time. Between, CS5.5, FCP7 and FCP X you really have the bases covered. As for Avid, it is one of the industry standard work horses and if you have the time and resources, especially with the deal they have out there right now, it would be a worthwhile learning experience. But they too will be releasing a new version soon. And on we go.
Hope this is helpful.
Norman Lang
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Thanks Chris. My work around is to create a project named “Logo” for example, with a title that includes my logo. Then, when I need it, I open the project and copy it. Then I open the project where I need that title and paste it above the storyline. Not “butter smooth”, but it works.
Norman Lang
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Thanks Brendan, but I don’t have Motion 5. I have always used Adobe AE for animation etc. Most titles I would do in FCP or Premiere directly. I would be happy to find an easier way to do it. If not, maybe the next release will have it. I would love to know if anyone has found a solution.
Norman Lang
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Thanks Brendan, but I don’t have Motion 5. I have always used Adobe AE for animation etc. Most titles I would do in FCP or Premiere directly. I would be happy to find an easier way to do it. If not, maybe the next release will have it. I would love to know if anyone has found a solution.
Norman Lang
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Hi Paul,
I am on FCP6. Most things come over very nicely. However, things like titles may show up with text placed differently in the frame in the Premiere pro timeline. But I usually use it to add some effects in After Affects or, I will add titles in Premiere and render from there with Adobe Media Encoder. It is not perfect. But it does a good enough job so there is not much tweaking to get it set up and usable.
NormanNorman Lang
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I have settled into a nice rhythm with FCS2 and Adobe Production Premium CS5.5. The XML trips back and forth between the two products actually go fairly smoothly. Each set of tools has its strengths and though it is not a perfect world, I can pretty much do all my editing at a professional level, pretty darn fast, especially using Adobe’s Mercury Engine for rendering etc. I feel pretty safe right now, going along doing what I was doing. Ultimately, if the new “version” of Final Cut Pro” goes in a prosumer direction, or winds up a toy, Adobe and/or Avid will be more than happy to fill the void. So I feel safe. I am not happy. I don’t think anyone who has “settled into a nice rhythm” with the “original” is happy, with what Apple is calling Final Cut Pro X. But we are safe. We have options.
Norman Lang
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