[Ninetto Makavejev]

OK, AME… Nevertheless, Gustavo’s query is spot-on. You are transcoding FROM what TO what with “AME”?

It really sounds like you have got your scaling or Color-Models wrong: then, of course, there is the oh-so-often, oh-so-deadly problem of ingesting/exporting your files at DATA LEVELS, AUTO, or VIDEO-LEVELS.

Need more precise info on your work flow/codecs used.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

Oh I would so much like to get to the bottom of this. I have been struggling with this DNxHD shift for weeks and have not found a definite answer. I have tried many combinations of export-import with/without “data levels” or “legal levels” or eve “auto”… have read many posts here, but no work flow yet that gives me the numbers I set in Resolve back in premiere.

Anybody have the golden recipie?

[Ninetto Makavejev]

It will just create a new trimmed project, and you can choose options/handles on how the manager trims and deals with offline material: usually you should “remove unused media” in the original project itself (usually a good idea if the edit is finished) if you don’t want to waste hard-drive space with files you don’t need for CC.

There is no danger regarding the original material/original project. A new “trimmed” project is created, just make sure you pick the right drive and have enough free space on it.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

You didn’t really describe what “problems” you are running into, but recently on a long P2 (mxf) project that began acting strange, esp. on exports, the best fountain-of-youth cure I discovered was clearing the MEDIA CACHE in the preferences.
Violá, everything was perfect again.
Certainly easier than tanscoding 500 hrs of material…

good luck, n.m.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

Hi. It was this guy:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/124/883576#883629

but he had an BM Intensity Pro, not Decklink.

I am in the middle of a project and haven’t the chance/time to fiddle with drivers to see if it helps at all with CS6 and Decklink. Will report back, at the end of the week… I am willing to try anything! Good luck to you too… n.m.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

Hi Myles, here is the thread from the weekend at the BMD forum at CC:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/124/883604#883634

But if you specifically search that forum you will come up with a dozen posts in the past two years relating to this problem. None of them really good news, I’m afraid.

Funny about that “resolve” remark. In fact at least resolve HAS resolved this problem, my Decklink HD Extreme card will output 25p to an Eizo monitor! The trouble is “limited” to Decklink and PP.

regards,
ninetto

[Ninetto Makavejev]

You may have seen/followed a discussion about this problem over at the Blackmagic forum, over the last year or two. Just recently, this week, I posted over there regarding this annoying 25p vs 50i problem with older (not-really-very old) Blackmagic cards. I had heard that with CS6 this problem had been solved. Except as far as I can tell, it hasn’t.

It might help to read those posts, if you don’t know them. The danger of exporting from a 50i timeline that uses 25p material is that Premiere will try to deinterlace the progressive source footage if exporting to a progessive format. You can see this in AME in the summary of SOURCE and TARGET formats. Whether these two operations just cancel each other out(25p->50i, 50i->25p ) is unclear, one user using this work-around saw double-deinterlacing artifacts when exporting to progressive formats (24p blu-ray).

The work-around for me and other users at the Blackmagic forum was as you describe: edit in 50i and then copy/paste to 25p timeline, to make sure Premiere interprets the footage correctly.

Not very pretty, but the only way I know for now. I would be happy to hear someone who has solved this issue, but it seems like Premiere/Blackmagic have given up on hardware that is more than 2-3 years old.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

Wierd thing though, or proof how evil/lazy manufacturers are regarding hardware support: using the very same “old” Decklink HD Extreme, RESOLVE has no problem displaying 25p! It just works. So it really isn’t “hardware” at all, it is just pure insanity that the BMD XML-presets/driver cannot be configured to display 25p within Premiere for this card!!! (yes I know that is a lot of exclamation points)

On another thread, someone had luck downgrading the driver to facilitate playback, I will try that when I finish current project.

best regards, n.m.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

hello Mark,

so which driver version finally “clicked” for you?

regards, n.m.

[Ninetto Makavejev]

Thanks for the info, Joel. You have a much newer card and I am 99.9% sure now that the older cards, like my Decklink HD (2K)Extreme simply cannot output 25p. None of the 25p presets in CS6 work with this card, contrary to what I had read elsewhere.

Another strange behavior is that the new preference settings in Premiere CS6 allowing you to pass-thru a sequence to the BMD Decklink even if it is not a BMD preset has no effect. The only workaround is as before: setting up an “incorrect” BMD 50i sequence, do all editing with that, and before outputting copy/paste everything into a correct sequence. Darn.

I would be very over-joyed to have someone contradict me, and say they have an older Decklink card playing ball with CS6.

I guess BMD, like so many other manufacturers, just gives up on “old” hardware: no card-specific update on firmware/software and no word that this card cannot handle 25p. So the vicious circle of buying new expensive hardware/software every 2-3 years continues… uggghhh!